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Do You want cross server LFG tool?

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Reevax
04.20.2012 , 07:51 PM | #91
Why do people hold on to the 100% false premise that X-server destroys a community? This is absolute untrue nonsense.

What is community?

My WoW guild formed after the LFD, we raid, run 5 mans, quest, chat, hang out on vent, and stuff like that.

Is that community?

Why is community restricted a single server? Why cant we communicate with the entire universe instead of one tiny bit?

People who don't want the LFD don't have any trouble getting groups for whatever reason. They got theirs basically, so everyone else can just sit on the station and pray they get a run once in a while.

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Remerik
04.20.2012 , 07:51 PM | #92
Hells no. A cross galaxy chat would do the trick.

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noterish
04.20.2012 , 07:53 PM | #93
Yes

Im a what bioware classes as a normal to heavy EU server, 40 people in EU prime time on both sides so around 80 people tops together on both fleets. I would really love to enjoy some of the flashpoints in this game ive only done maybe 1-2 and i really enjoyed them.

The simple truth though is that on a server like mine people simply dont do flashpoints because there is usually not enough people to do them. It really comes down to that, unless servers are merged ( which i doubt because its not great PR for any company to merge this soon after release ) Cross realm LFG is my only real option to be able to get a group constantly.

As it stands i personally feel as if im missing a huge part of the experience that is the old republic (and yes i have tried to form my own groups but it doesnt really work at least for me). I can understand all the people saying it will destroy the community that they have on there server and in some way i agree with you but simply put i dont think its fair on people like myself who are stuck on servers like myself.

Anyway take that for what you want.

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Skirata_Kal
04.20.2012 , 07:56 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkulous View Post
You're getting near the truth of why some people don't want this tool. This tool opens the door for many to get the same gear the Dungeon Dwellers tooks countless hours to aquire.

Than there are others who argue against it in ignorance. They actually have no real experience with a true x-server LFD.
I wonder how they'd feel if we all rerolled on their server and forced their queues to 2 hours lol...no I'm not advocating that. They are, however, almost asking for it when they keep throwing out transfers as a solution that negates the need for a xserver lfg tool, lol.
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JeramieCrowe
04.20.2012 , 07:57 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkulous View Post
And yet 98% of my LFG experiences are good. Somebody here is making stuff up or we're using this tool in different ways.
You realize, of course, that our experiences are completely subjective, right? That means no one is right and no one is wrong. No one's "making stuff up".

The last time I tentatively tried to PuG was in RIFT, and I gave it a good honest go over the period of about two weeks. Queued up several times a day, and out of all of those, only 2 (two, deuce!) of those times were actually decent. All the other times, the person just suddenly left in the middle of the dungeon with no reason why, or after the first boss, they got the roll on what they wanted, then disappeared, or they "needed" on everything, or.... you name it.

It was just bad. And there was no calling them out or warning other players because they weren't on our server.
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Darkulous
04.20.2012 , 07:58 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Why do people hold on to the 100% false premise that X-server destroys a community? This is absolute untrue nonsense.

What is community?

My WoW guild formed after the LFD, we raid, run 5 mans, quest, chat, hang out on vent, and stuff like that.

Is that community?
Yes. The Guild is your community. If a LFD tool destroys it, than it probably wasn't a good guild to begin with.
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JeramieCrowe
04.20.2012 , 07:59 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Destronicus View Post
Either cross server LFG or forced server merges that eliminate 50% to 75% of the servers. Either one is an acceptable solution to me.
Heck no, that would cause server queues like mad during events and expansions. The current ongoing server transfer will take care of those servers well. After all, after the news from yesterday, now we know that subs are actually still rising.
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Reevax
04.20.2012 , 07:59 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
You realize, of course, that our experiences are completely subjective, right? That means no one is right and no one is wrong. No one's "making stuff up".

The last time I tentatively tried to PuG was in RIFT, and I gave it a good honest go over the period of about two weeks. Queued up several times a day, and out of all of those, only 2 (two, deuce!) of those times were actually decent. All the other times, the person just suddenly left in the middle of the dungeon with no reason why, or after the first boss, they got the roll on what they wanted, then disappeared, or they "needed" on everything, or.... you name it.

It was just bad. And there was no calling them out or warning other players because they weren't on our server.
People leaving is a non issue since you can replace them in seconds. Rolling need on everything sounds like bad game mechanics.

Guess what, those things happen right now without any sort of FP tool. On top of that did you know if you call someone out in SWTOR and they report you, YOU get the warning.

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Darkulous
04.20.2012 , 08:02 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post

The last time I tentatively tried to PuG was in RIFT, and I gave it a good honest go over the period of about two weeks. Queued up several times a day, and out of all of those, only 2 (two, deuce!) of those times were actually decent. All the other times, the person just suddenly left in the middle of the dungeon with no reason why, or after the first boss, they got the roll on what they wanted, then disappeared, or they "needed" on everything, or.... you name it.
If someone leaves you just reque. That's one of the beautiful things about LFD tools. What happens when someone leaves the party in SWTOR? You're effed.
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InvisiblePerson
04.20.2012 , 08:03 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
You realize, of course, that our experiences are completely subjective, right? That means no one is right and no one is wrong. No one's "making stuff up".

The last time I tentatively tried to PuG was in RIFT, and I gave it a good honest go over the period of about two weeks. Queued up several times a day, and out of all of those, only 2 (two, deuce!) of those times were actually decent. All the other times, the person just suddenly left in the middle of the dungeon with no reason why, or after the first boss, they got the roll on what they wanted, then disappeared, or they "needed" on everything, or.... you name it.

It was just bad. And there was no calling them out or warning other players because they weren't on our server.
I haven't seen anyone actually publicly shamed by the community-at-large since Ultima Online (and even then not really). Most people just don't care the Mikedatrollhumper is a ninja. Whether Mike is from their server or a different one. No cross-server really doesn't change someone is a ninja or not; there are loot systems that completely bypass the typical roll system anyways and hopefully we'll see that implemented more fully in the future. Someone leaving, well that's going to happen no matter what. I've had that happen in this game. Just have to replace them.