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KrotanaThrall
04.20.2012 , 06:53 AM | #241
This is Disappointing. The only reason I was doing social points in the first place was for these. Now that they are gone I have 0 reason to get them anymore. way to go BW.

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LarryRow
04.20.2012 , 06:54 AM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by Craftamancer View Post
I really think that "aggressively pursuing" social levels is the problem with the whole social system in the first place. Gaining social levels should be as painless as gaining legacy xp... surely the developers did not intend for players to have to run 500 Black Talon/Esseles runs in order to be "social".

I think that a vastly superior solution would be to give social points any time XP is gained while you are in a group and within X range of at least one of your party members. This would encourage players to group up, and allow players to gain social points for, go figure, actually being social.
QFT

How many of us have obtained heroic quests and spent 30 minutes or more gathering a group for it, only to receive no social points because the turn-in had no dialog choices? The ones from mission boxes are particularly obnoxious in this regard. The game doesn't reward being social, it rewards making dialog choices while grouped.

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Ishkur
04.20.2012 , 07:01 AM | #243
You can easily exploit social rank 10 in ~25 minutes. That's the reason why BW doesn't care about it much maybe.
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Glower
04.20.2012 , 07:13 AM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by Ishkur View Post
You can easily exploit social rank 10 in ~25 minutes.
How?...

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Ishkur
04.20.2012 , 07:15 AM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by Glower View Post
How?...
Of course I will post this in the forums. I didn't even do it myself as I couldn't care less about my social rank (and I don't even play anymore) - But it is possible.
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kevlarto
04.20.2012 , 08:23 AM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by Blattan View Post
You remove these items because they are detrimental to others gameplay...
But you release the Rakghoul Plague... Something that can be forced onto other players, and NOT as easy to end by those who received the "gift."

Yeah. Makes sense to me... :-/
I agree

I wish they would have given a little more detail about what is supposed to be detrimental about a social party bomb, they were fun. I don't even have one and I miss my firends, did someone find an exploit that caused other players, to have some condition they could not recover from ? it was a fun way to celebrate after a big boss fight.. and if you did not want to take part all you had to do was move a bit, geez how things that are so benign can cause so much grief to someone and cause it to ruin the fun of those that enjoyed it.. /facepalm
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Bitters
04.20.2012 , 08:32 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by LarryRow View Post
QFT

How many of us have obtained heroic quests and spent 30 minutes or more gathering a group for it, only to receive no social points because the turn-in had no dialog choices? The ones from mission boxes are particularly obnoxious in this regard. The game doesn't reward being social, it rewards making dialog choices while grouped.
In my dream world, the game would expand on social, instead of backing out on the rewards. It would be great if social points were awarded for grouping, not just answering conversation questions. In this crazy dreamworld of mine, players would also get social points for assisting other players that they aren't grouped with ("thanks for saving my ***, player X" instead of just watching me die") or for buffing other players, or even for dancing together. You know... giving social points for interacting with other players. I would also have musical instruments that players can play in my "developer for a day" dreamworld, but I digress.

In the real world, it'd be great if they were considering expanding on the social system, but in the meantime, I just want them to consider how to bring back the awesome rewards while at the same time placating those players who are annoyed by them (to some degree, as you can't make everyone happy, especially those who aren't affected by an item but still want it removed simply out of annoyance).

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Mautics
04.20.2012 , 08:53 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by DavidWhite View Post
Hi everyone, we had recently discovered an issue that allowed these items to be used in ways detrimental to other player's gameplay and have taken the temporary step of removing them from availability. We are in process of determining further steps and will likely alter their functionality before putting them back in or replace them with a different but still cool reward. In the meantime, their value has been changed so that they can be sold back to the vendor at no loss. We apologize for any confusion.
Yeah I'm glad I grinded out hours and hours over the course of several weeks to reach social X for these items only to have them removed from game in 1.2 - what a waste of time - I was not happy, to say the least,

It's stuff like this that pisses me off. They have an in game item that you work towards - then it is just removed from game entirely.
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Gokkus
04.20.2012 , 08:55 AM | #249
I didnt even know there was a social IV.

But yeah, I think there should be opportunities to get social points outside of the Essless
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Hooter
04.20.2012 , 09:30 AM | #250
So if the party bomb and party instigator were freezing people on the PTS why can't bioware just come out and say "Sorry we messed up the coding for the party items and they were casuing a root effect. Do to the pressure EA was putting on us to release the 1.2 patch, we did not have the time to fix the code for said items. For the time being these items have been removed while we work on the error and plan to have them returned to the game soon. We are sorry for the inconvenience, for those of you who did take the time to get to Social X, we will be adding a free month onto your subscription. Again we would like to apologize and assure you that we are working our hardest to fix the problem."

Instead they say it was detrimental even though there are other actions that are detrimental to others gameplay already in the game that they didn't get rid of.

Seems like they don't want to admit they made a mistake.
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