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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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AngryM
04.19.2012 , 02:07 PM | #691
I was leaning towards not renewing, then the new event had me playing more than I thought I would. One thing, when 1.2 hit I lost almost 10 valor levels, dropped from war hero all the way back to BM. Kind of took some wind from my sales. Submitted a ticket for it, so will see what happens.

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JeramieCrowe
04.19.2012 , 02:08 PM | #692
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Eminok View Post
The armor is not too true to the star wars universe and it seems like the devs went World of Warcraft on us. Older armor designs from 09 and early stages of production of TOR were much more fit for this time period as this takes place in the PAST.
Also, since you chose to use the word "universe", you have to accept that comic books are considered canon. Darth Krayt, anyone?

You may hate the spikes and the blades all you want, but it's still Star Wars. Besides, now that every appearance is modifiable, there's no excuse for wanting to take the looks you hate away from those that like it.
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admriker
04.19.2012 , 02:19 PM | #693
I finally cancelled. I gave Bioware a free month subscription as I didnt play for 6 weeks. the new patch has actually discouraged me from playing. I dont have any interest in learning about some boring change to a flawed design.

the emu is nearly complete for the star wars galaxies project. in its current state its better than the original already and its improving daily.

I dont see any mmo getting me to quit playing swg emu until someone decides to actually develop the first true hybrid mmo
In the beginning there was Ultima, and the devs said it was good.
Then there was Star Wars Galaxies, and the devs said oops can we start over.
And now The Old Republic, and the devs said Blizz eat my shorts

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Scerion
04.19.2012 , 02:38 PM | #694
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
The simple fact that you're attempting to compare WoW story and leveling with TOR story and leveling illustrates your first mistake.

This is BioWare, not Blizzard. They've been stating now for over 2 years that playing the storylines is part of the endgame experience. Two years! And you know what? It is.

If you've ever played any other BioWare game, you know that the storyline is their content. Why is it that BioWare sells more games than almost any other developer? STORY.

If you're not here for story, maybe this really isn't the game for you. Georg Zoeller acknowledged that fact in beta:
You seem to forget this is an MMO. It should encourage player interraction and reward team play. What Bioware have is a single-player story driven game with very little incentive to group with the few players you may meet while levelling in the heavily instanced environment.

I'll give Bioware props - I love the Mass Effect games, but they need to quit with this game now and do what they do best - that's not MMOs.

I think everyone without rose-tinted glasses on can see that pretty clearly. I had a LOT more fun in WoW than I ever did in SWTOR. I also had more fun in Rift. This is the first MMO I've played where I genuinely couldn't face logging in any more, and so never made level cap.

For someone with a fully raid-geared 85 of every class (in some cases 2 of the same class on different servers) and numerous twinks in WoW, that's pretty bad. For someone who was a hardcore raider, and officer in one of the biggest guilds in one of WoW's heaviest pop servers to never have felt like grouping (apart from PVP) while levelling, that's pretty damning.

As I said above, I'm disappointed - I WANT a new MMO as I grew bored with WoW. But I have to face facts - Blizzard just does this stuff better than anyone else around them at the moment. It helps that they have money pouring out of 10 million pockets an into their bank account every month of course. But that's just how it is.

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wellymace
04.19.2012 , 02:47 PM | #695
Not renewing here..still deciding what new MMO to play next with quite a bit of choice available.

It is sad that BW couldn't have been more commercial and foreseen this decline happening by being more aware of its customer base and more commercially savvy. This game had so much potential but has been let down by probably staff issues within Bioware.

You cannot compare this game to WoW as Wow is almost 8 years old. BW had the opportunity to use the latest technology to bring a stunner to play especially with over 200million invested.

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DarthStealth
04.19.2012 , 03:03 PM | #696
I plan on keeping till my time runs out in about a month or so. However if dont see a response from bioware as to when or if there going put in black robes for marauders then I wont re up. As silly as it may sound its a big deal to me and other marauders out there. If they dont care to respond about it in multiple large posts about it then I dont care to re subscribe.

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Guthwine
04.19.2012 , 03:14 PM | #697
I was about to cancel my sub until they gave me another month free. Now I will wait til the end of the month, and if they haven't at least announced that they are working on the population issue, I will stop playing.

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JeramieCrowe
04.19.2012 , 05:17 PM | #698
Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
You seem to forget this is an MMO. It should encourage player interraction and reward team play.
It does. All xp and loot is better when you group even for your class quests. Hell, even the class quests even scale in difficulty if you have 3 or more.

Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
What Bioware have is a single-player story driven game with very little incentive to group with the few players you may meet while levelling in the heavily instanced environment.
No, what they have is an MMO with more single-player to it than any other MMO. And it's about damned time someone did it. And there is much incentive to group. But what you have is a playerbase that would rather do it solo DESPITE the increase in xp and loot with grouping.

Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
I'll give Bioware props - I love the Mass Effect games, but they need to quit with this game now and do what they do best - that's not MMOs.

I think everyone without rose-tinted glasses on can see that pretty clearly. I had a LOT more fun in WoW than I ever did in SWTOR. I also had more fun in Rift. This is the first MMO I've played where I genuinely couldn't face logging in any more, and so never made level cap.
Well, good for you. After playing both of those, TOR is 20 times the game than either of those.

Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
For someone with a fully raid-geared 85 of every class (in some cases 2 of the same class on different servers) and numerous twinks in WoW, that's pretty bad. For someone who was a hardcore raider, and officer in one of the biggest guilds in one of WoW's heaviest pop servers to never have felt like grouping (apart from PVP) while levelling, that's pretty damning.
Well, you must have hated WoW when it was only 3 months old, then.

Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
As I said above, I'm disappointed - I WANT a new MMO as I grew bored with WoW. But I have to face facts - Blizzard just does this stuff better than anyone else around them at the moment. It helps that they have money pouring out of 10 million pockets an into their bank account every month of course. But that's just how it is.
Actually, no. Are you seriously expecting a brand new MMO to have the same content as an 8-year-old game? Then you will never be satisfied with another MMO again. Because TOR, at 3 months old, is so much more game than WoW was at 3 months old. I know. I was there.

I think the only rose-colored glasses going on here are in front of the eyes looking at WoW...
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Raximillian
04.19.2012 , 05:31 PM | #699
I already cancelled. 5 days left. I do not hate the game, I think it's pretty good, but it is a lot of the same thing you get in other games. Sure, many games are like that, but I was expecting a bit more. Story is good, cinematics are great, but that only goes so far... The rest of the game is pretty standard affair I'm afraid.

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Aberration
04.19.2012 , 05:33 PM | #700
I want to stay.

I have 5 characters with my highest at 36. I have played since early access, so I am rather casual. I liked the game until the population dropped rather quickly on my server. So now I am rerolling, but not really enthusiastic about redoing the content.