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Why do fresh 50's have the same gear as me

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Why do fresh 50's have the same gear as me

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Nicain
04.19.2012 , 01:05 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Kanana View Post
You should be able to defeat a fresh 50 because of your experience and skill, not because of some gear advantage. This is PvP, not PvE. Ideally, all would have the same gear, allowing for fair matches.
This is PVP not dueling, you can't expect everything to be, ready set go.

I mean come on, what kind of world do you live in where that's what you're after?

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Tenthletter
04.19.2012 , 01:09 PM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by fuzzDONTEVENTRIP View Post
Yup, i can call it quits after XXX amount of rWZ comms obtained and know i only have XXX left to grind. Where in pre-1.2 i could go 1/20-1/30 with BM bags and just bang by head against the wall. Loved the feeling of being a few weeks into BM and having around ~6 comms and a fresh 60val gets 6 comms within his first 2 days. >.<

-fuzz
You're right! Continuing to punish players with obscene gear grinds and RNG is the best thing they can do to retain customers, and draw in new ones!

o wait...

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Nicain
04.19.2012 , 01:13 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by xirinia View Post
Actually, Bioware's actions disagree with you. You seem to be playing a wrong game, I guess.
A lot of people have left because of these changes, thats why WZ's are longer queues, because no one wants to play your carebear game. Thats why you' casuals are crying for server merges because your 'view' of the game and how it should be pushed all the good players to other games. Wonder why the GTN sucks now? No high end players farming or crafting gear for the masses because they're gone.

My account expires the 21st I believe, I actually only came back to play around with a few friends because of the plague event. Nineteen of my friends accounts will expire this week (my guild) because of these changes, so enjoy what you have left to play, looks like all the players who can do anything have gone Galt =).

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Aetou
04.19.2012 , 01:22 PM | #224
I wish BM gear was that quick and easy to get so that I didn't have to try and keep any more 13k HP team members alive. Today the republic queues on my server were swarmed with undergeared players, it made it a nightmare. I'm happy with decent gear being quick to get while really good gear (WH with customised mods in augmented oranges) is slow and expensive.

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DarthKhaos
04.19.2012 , 01:56 PM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by Nicain View Post
This is PVP not dueling, you can't expect everything to be, ready set go.

I mean come on, what kind of world do you live in where that's what you're after?
You have any idea how you sound? This IS PvP and to have truly competitive PvP the gear should be of the same level. When you have one group vastly outgearing the other it is no longer PvP.
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HBninjaX
04.19.2012 , 01:58 PM | #226
look I woke up early in the morning to play mario kart on illum for my gear in addition to solo-queue grinding warzones. i paid for my crappy champ gear with time and effort and some boredom. I have no problems with people getting recruit gear, and I don't have problems with people grinding out BM gear relatively quickly.

What I do have a problem with is a pvp environment where only the no-lifers can be considered great players.

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Misaki-chan
04.19.2012 , 01:59 PM | #227
The valor system to begin with was an awful idea for gear req. Titles are fine for it.
We must be swift as a zealot with speed.
With all the force of a nine nine proxy,
With all the strength Of a raging twelve nex.
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ragnarz
04.19.2012 , 02:07 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by fuzzDONTEVENTRIP View Post
Whats the huge advantage in PvP?

99% of players are BM. Full BM is attainable in a week of grinding. 2-3 if youre slow and casual + its guaranteed, not chance like the previous system. Now with new update to the WZ comm reward system, itll be even faster.

So how is there huge advantage when new PvPers are being given the same gear as everyone else on a silver platter

-fuzz
I can make up statistics too. . . . fuzzDONTEVENTRIP is wrong 99% of the time

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DarkDruidSS
04.19.2012 , 02:11 PM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by HBninjaX View Post
look I woke up early in the morning to play mario kart on illum for my gear
Had to quote this. So hilarious and true.
Beatrush - 50 Assassin | Satellitebeam - 50 Sniper
Katastrophe - 41 Powertech | Ømnislash - 34 Marauder
Highwind - 29 Commando | ßraver - 23 Sentinel
Finalheaven - 21 Sage | Bigbrawl - 14 Scoundrel

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strangelovebomb
04.19.2012 , 03:01 PM | #230
The problem with PvP gear progression right now is mostly due to the fact that they left out Ranked WZs. The new PvP gear was balanced around the idea that most War Hero geared players would be playing ranked and most recruit geared players would not. By cutting this out at the last minute, yet not changing the gear stats, you basically dump all players into the same pool, something that I don't think was intended (at least, not en mass like it is now). Sure, you'd have your occasional WH geared guy in a non-ranked, but I don't think this would be the norm.

The simple fact is, the system in place right now is NOT working as intended, as the INTENT was to have a different rank of WZs for most higher geared players. So yes, the gear balance is out of whack, but that doesn't mean the system is broken.......its just not complete yet (which is a whole different QQ thread).

I'm in full recruit gear and getting obliterated in WZs........but I do not expect BioWare to change the gear grind to cater to me...........I EXPECT them to get Ranked WZs perfected and launched ASAP so the system they designed can work correctly.