Why do fresh 50's have the same gear as me

Seriously??? And this is being promoted as actual intended gameplay??? You may as well just remove the walls entirely then. They seem to serve no purpose.

You must not play FPS much. You can shoot through and even demolish walls in Battlefield Bad Company up till the current game Battlefield 3. Actually the new BF3 maps are office type maps with sheet rock that blows away like real life exposing the metals girders behind it.

You could also shoot through walls in Rainbow Six and Counter Strike. It's not a new concept.

Yea, and we should make all classes have the same exact abilities too. If someone has 2% more HP and you lose to him, blame the gear and call yourself a purist. Wake up, it is an MMO. If you want people to log in for months and years you need progression.

Where are you getting this 2% HP stat. Gear does alot more than boost HP. Do you even play this game?

With the introduction of 1.2 those in BM gear were given an increase in their performance capabilities relative to the lower tiers without any additional work required at all.

BM now represents the middle of 3 tiers of PvP gear. You could achieve a piece of Champion gear (the previous middle tier) every 2-3 days with about a 2 hour daily investment if you were on a decently populated server (no more than 10 minute queues, 15 minute matches, 50% win rate). The same holds true for BM gear now.

Meanwhile, a new top tier has been added for those, like yourself, who prefer to spend larger chunks of time to achieve.

You tell others that time=performance increases is the way of MMOs. What you seem to be missing is that new tiers being released=older tiers being easier to get is also a frequently experienced reality of MMOs, as well.

Overall, the middle and top tiers of gear require roughly the same time commitment as they did previously. Therefore the basic pace of progression has remained static.

Also, the gaps have widened, as well.

Pre-1.2:
http://dulfy.net/2012/02/20/useful-w...-statistics-3/

Centurion - ~9.7%
Champion- ~12% (2.3% gain)
Battlemaster- ~12.6% (0.6% gain)

Post 1.2:
http://dulfy.net/2012/03/22/pvp-gearing-in-1-2/

Centurion- ~10.5% (obsolete)
Champion- ~14% (obsolete)
Recruit- ~18.2%
Battlemaster- ~22.2% (4% gain)
War Hero- ~24% (1.8% gain)

I have 2 War Hero pieces already and I support fresh 50's having equal gear. I'm confident enough in my skills to overcome their rotations... the gear is merely an aesthetic thing for me, personally.

The progression for recruit to BM is quick. Like the above posted. The progression from BM to WH will take considerably longer. People running the maths said prior to today's patch it would take roughly 350 hours played time to get full WH set. I did a /played on my Sin and I only have 178 hours... so that is twice the time it took to get to 50 and get some pvp gear at 50 before 1.2.

War Hero is still a vast time sink to get the full set. The offset to this is that the difference between BM gear and War Hero is smaller than the difference from Champion to Battlemaster used to be.

Yes, i am in favor of this progression. It gives something for the BM's to strive for (while taking awhile to achieve) and it gives the fresher 50s better chance at progressing. To get WH you have to do the same thing as the people trying to get BM. You both get the same currency (WZ comms), but for people trying to get WH, WZ comms = 1/3 less valuable as WZ comms that are being used for BM. The fact that BM is also about 1/3 as expensive as WH gear also helps. So people who want WH arent doing anything different than the people trying to get BM, but we have to work 9x as hard/longer to get our piece (which i think is fair).

If WH equaling 7-9x longer/harder to get then BM isnt fair, then i dont know how else you could try and close the gap any quicker

-fuzz

Syylara proved me wrong on the stats thing. Thanks. haha.

Define "quick" as this is an entirely subjective term.

As I demonstrated, it is basically the exact same pace to achieve BM now as it took to achieve Champion before and both were the middle of 3 tiers in their respective settings.

Also, the advantage your BM gear has over recruit gear is greater than the advantage it was giving you over Champion gear prior to 1.2. (4% increase rather than 0.6%, a significant improvement). You did not have to put in any additional time to receive that 3.4% increase in performance, it was handed to you over night in a patch.