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GreySix
04.19.2012 , 07:44 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by mlmbobo View Post
He came in out of nowhere to steal our boss as our attacks started.... as I choose a healer class my most potent attack is Force Quake. And yes I know i can stop it, which I did as soon as I realized he was attacking us. It was more of a guy hiding and trying to force pvp on ppl. Which is fine. My point is that if BW wants to force pve players to run through pvp flagging areas for a quest, ppl should know they are flagged and not cry about it when they are. It happens, deal with it. I'm not complaining that I ganked and was ganked another player, I wanted the item so it goes with the pvp area.
Okay, that explains how my wife and I got unexpectedly flagged PvP by a Level 50 on Hoth. He flagged and attacked me, but probably didn't expect my wife's Jedi to jump in - which she did, and proceded to commense a beat-down. He ran off like a scalded dog before she could finish him.

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Rhizoprionodon
04.19.2012 , 07:50 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by -Kane View Post
Just think of it as Anakin killing the younglings.. It's the sith way
I was actually there for the event that started this post, and is was a few republic 50s in the Havoc Squad guild on Fort Garnik that were stalking me, a level 30, while I tried to finish up my dailies on Tatooine. It was quite annoying, I'd be fighting a group of rakghouls when suddenly one or all of the 50s would jump in and kill me. Of course, once your pvp flag is on, it STAYS on until you go for 5 minutes without engaging in combat. So, for the most part, I was stalked and killed for a good half hour, each time I went to the area.

Most unfortunately, when I invited another low level guildie to group with me (so I could show him the wreck site) it automatically flagged him for pvp, because suddenly my stalkers were ganking him too. That's when it turned into an all out war, because picking on two low level members of the biggest imperial guild is just asking for it.

Now the reason my pvp flag was on is actually pretty funny. There are lawless zones on Tat that automatically put up your pvp flag (i.e. outlaws den). My level 40 friend had gone through there, and was being stalked by a 50 in the tat daily area. I jumped in to help him, and wouldn't you know that a 40 and 30 nearly killed a level 50 trooper healer. We attacked him twice, we were so close the first time, thought we might manage to kill him the second. Unfortunately, you can't chat with players from the other faction (I was unaware of the "say" function at that time) so we weren't able to make it clear that this was all in good fun and that we weren't going to stalk the poor 50. So, we left the guy alone and went about our business. He brought in two more Havoc Squad 50s and attacked me and my friend. We had it coming I suppose

This is where it went from being good fun, to just griefing. I couldn't turn my flag off, and despite the fact that I was now a lone level 30 (my level 40 friend logged for the night) I was killed at least 8 times by them. Each time I would res, no matter where I was fighting they would find and kill me. Until my guild mates jumped in. Since then I have seen 50s policing the area on my server.

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kiddeth
04.19.2012 , 07:58 AM | #63
boo and hoo.
So what does this key unlock.........I hope it's a chastity belt.

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Roccobb
04.19.2012 , 07:58 AM | #64
I still want to see them remove valor from you if you attack a player 10+ levels below you. First time 50, second time 100, etc...

I also don't want to be flagged without me saying yes, I want to be flagged. If I try healing a player who is flagged, tell me if you heal him again, you will be flagged. If I accidentally, or my companion does, attacks a player who is flagged for PVP, I just want an error. Cannot attack this player. The only way in open world I should ever flag is if I right click my portrait.

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Darianth
04.19.2012 , 08:02 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
why did the devs allow the rakghoul plague to involuntarily flag people for PVP? If I wanted world pvp I would have rolled on a pvp server. I watched pub 50's using this exploit to gank lowbie emps on Tatooine tonight. Of course there is no customer service so good luck reporting
Toggle off the pvp flag?

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Rhizoprionodon
04.19.2012 , 08:04 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by kiddeth View Post
boo and hoo.
Actually it was net fun The griefing was pathetic, but hey, obviously those 50s needed the boost.

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Screaming_Ziva
04.19.2012 , 08:12 AM | #67
I think your explosion from the plague can flag you for PvP if you are standing next to a flagged enemy.

I am an imperial and was not flagged for PvP standing at the DNA vendor waiting to explode to get the last 5 DNA I needed. I exploded, got my 5 DNA, and thought everything was fine. However, as soon as I rezzed I was ganked by 3 Republics standing at the vendor as well.

Did my explosion hitting a flagged player flag me for PvP?

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Evangelist
04.19.2012 , 08:13 AM | #68
All this discussion about people infecting the opposite faction and ganking them, clearly you've not figured out 2 of the easiest solutions to prevent this from happeneing.

1) The most obvious, the vaccination.
2) Get infected by either someone of your own faction or one of the mobs. You cannot be reinfected by the opposing faction so no flag.

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GreySix
04.19.2012 , 08:59 AM | #69
Quote:
There are lawless zones on Tat that automatically put up your pvp flag (i.e. outlaws den).
Was unaware of that. Will have to watch for such locations. Do they at least have a count-down?

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I also don't want to be flagged without me saying yes, I want to be flagged.
Concur. The main reason I chose a low population server was to avoid dimwits running around, interfereing with my PVE play. Certainly don't care for PVP stalkers who are too pathetic not to get instantly annihilated on a PVP server.

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Chewdatbacker
04.19.2012 , 09:03 AM | #70
If it's red it's dead. I don't care if it's a level 20 questing alone, or if it's 3 level 50's doing their dailies. I'll jump them anyway. Anyone who doesn't do that and is on a pvp server needs to reroll pve.