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maintenance, why so much


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Himeji_Endless
04.19.2012 , 01:39 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainAsa View Post
I don't mind the maintenance it just that I pay to play. so refund every hour of down time as a cash back for your time.
its that simple. for 30 days divided by the hours of lost play time. we should get a refund. So if it it adds up to one week we should get a week free.
That sounds fair!

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maxilo
04.19.2012 , 01:39 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by rgdelta View Post
I love how people say why so much maintaince this game has had less maintaince since launch then other major mmo's heck WoW in the first 2 months had alot of maintaince (including a day or more at a time to the point that they were giving out free days think there was like 6-8 free days in the first 2 months and they only did that when the servers were down for 1+ days)
When was wow released ? You can't use that as an example it's far too long ago (nobody knew what they were doing back then)

i have been around for all the major releases of mmo's and i have to say this has been very very poor.

They release a patch and two days later downtime again seems to be the norm.

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lenCORP
04.19.2012 , 01:40 AM | #143
Server Outage going for 4 hours starting at:
LA: Wednesday 6AM
NY: Wednesday 9AM
London: Wednesday 2PM
Berlin/Paris: Wednesday 3PM
Aus: Thursday 11pm

The above times still effect us Aussies and the Euro Guys the most but at least it is still not right through prime time and you would get far less crying on here about it.

I think that would work better some everyone yeh?

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DartSuncho
04.19.2012 , 01:40 AM | #144
This is an American game, for Americans. They sleep well through the downtime while we are wasting nerves. My response is clear and sound: I cancel my subscription. Now all the data from Torstatus makes sense. Happy single playing to all!

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Nuzt
04.19.2012 , 01:41 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Androgena View Post
lol the old Maint, time Argument
Now that you all know when Maint, is can we get over it ?
I mean really , now you know so whats all the talk about ?As for Long times well I do agree there but I think the times more for them to test each server then the actual patch . If you notice you can logg in and patch almost instantly after the servers go down and that patch almost always is " The one" so I believe they go through and double check the servers and thats where the extended downtime comes in.
I talked to a dev once who told me different servers running the same game sometimes get their own specific bugs do to isolated patches and or w/e . so each server needs to be checked when a patch is applied ( that dev was not for this game lol I don't want to put words into anyones mouth) afcourse that was a small game runing only 4 servers this is a large game running what 20 or 30 ? iono seems it'll take time
Also I am west coaster and the servers go down in my prime time aswell but it's ok I have other things I can do . at least we get forwarned most of the time
No because scheduled maintenance is just that ... SCHEDULED. This is a we were to ignorant to listen to tester so now we have to piss some of you off for a few hours due to our inability to acknowledge anything outside our magical realm of we know best.

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Darth_Kael
04.19.2012 , 01:41 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by lord_zod View Post
Actually no I don't BECAUSE THE SERVERS ARE ALWAYS DOWN during PEAK TIMES IN PST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So im west coast PST as well an i dnt see 12am being peak times i see peak times being about 6pm-10pm because when u have a life out side gaming thats usually about the time between work an sleep. now some people do have different hours yes but majority of people tend to keep the hours mentioned above so ya not really peak times.

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ChakraFive
04.19.2012 , 01:41 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by pyropete View Post
??? My sense of entitlement? Perhaps you read my post wrong but I wasn't writing it in anger. I was just saying it as a suggestion that they put back the maintenance by a couple hours so that us PST time players can have a decent amount of time to play. I work swing shift, and I have tues-thurs off. With family I can only play at about 9pm pst on my nights off at the earliest which only leaves a couple hours to play.
I bolded, but let me repost

Quote: Originally Posted by pyropete View Post
change it to at least 2am like normal games.
That sir sure reads like a command.

I'm actually with you on your latest post....but the previous one reads like and order to meet your demands, it doesn't read like a suggestion,... to me at least.

If you really do mean it as a suggestion, it may help to read before posting. Simply adding "perhaps" to the front as a suggestion would change the tone I would think.

take it or leave it....just saying how it came across the wire
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Azurax
04.19.2012 , 01:41 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Yomitako View Post
I guess there'a always gonna be people getting butthurt in this game regardless of what they do. First off, for the people that are upset over the unscheduled maintenance. It's quite likely it has to do with an issue regarding Asia/Pac server transfers. A bug that cannot be tested upon in any way, shape or form.

To those in the regions affected during peak times. It's going to happen, until they can implement a way to have multiple servers running simultaneously, or regionally so that they can ultimately split up the downtimes aross regions to minimize impact on peak times across the globe. The fact of the matter is, they cannot do this, and will not do this anytime soon. They have a specific team to address these things. They have specific hours and timeframes laid out for them by the company. They cannot, and will not cater to those currently having the most affection by the downtimes, because the company also has to look out for these people. Those people that are trying to work hard in providing as good a game experience as they possibly can, have friends and families too. Most places also have certain bylaws about either being scheduled to work at certain times, or are required by labour laws and statues, to be paid extra for working at certain hours of the day (example: Saskatchewan, retail shift work, after 9pm, your hourly wage is increased by $0.50-$1.00 per hour).

The fact of the matter is, this is the way it's going to be, and it's going to be like this for a while yet, until they can find a way to implement a better solution. Please also keep in mind that this solution, is also going to cost money, and probably a lot of it. You have to consider that they have to purchase a location, or building rentals, hiring new staff, training, equipment, bills (Hydro, electric, telephone, internet et al). These things do not come cheaply.

Maintenance is an essential and required part of any game, regardless if it's an MMORPG or not. Behind the scenes, behind every single game, there are human beings. Human beings, by their very nature, are prone to mistakes. Nobody is perfect, nor will they ever be. If this was the case, then there would never be bugs or maintenance, period, and the game would be up 24/7, running flawlessly with no chance of any problems ever occurring.

Just come to peace with it, and come to peace with the fact that you simply cannot please everyone. When things like this happen, it's going to affect somebody, and that somebody will be upset about it. This is the way the economy and software development works. You are still human, you still have a heartbeat, you still have friends, families, employment, a home, and personal belongings. Don't take things for granted.
I can't say I 100% agree with this post. But I'd like to say I appreciate that you wrote something that not only can be understood, but comes across as an intelligent and valuable opinion rather than attempting to bludgeon your way through an argument, which has become so common place on the internet. If everyone could offer at least this much I think we could come up with better results as a community rather than "QQing" and "trolling".
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JohnStoops
04.19.2012 , 01:43 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornsbane View Post
You pay a whopping $15 a month....you get all you deserve for that small price.

There are 672 hours in the average month and the servers are up for around 630 hours in the average month. So they are up around 94% of the time. You are getting what you pay for easily for a tiny $15/month.

Quit whining.
well the thing is that i can pay $60 to play a game for an infinite number of hours but i choose to play swtor for $60 and then i pay a $15 monthly few for maintenance so that i can continue to play new and updated content.....but i am falsely advertised a certain amount of play time and rejected that amount of time.....do the server shutdowns when they are scheduled unless they are crashing constantly.

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CaptainAsa
04.19.2012 , 01:43 AM | #150
We pay to play. If no play we need to get payed. But Europa has a point is their a quality down time worth more than any time? so Does Europe get quality pay for down time in the middle of the day?