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A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

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A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

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PostalTwinkie
04.18.2012 , 01:30 PM | #671
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
This guy might actually have a point though, i heard sorcs got the worst of it. I only speak from personal experience and I honestly dont know any Sorc healers personally in-game. I see this one sorc healer every once in a while and he is getting creamed in 1.2...but he was terrible before 1.2 as well so not much difference lol.
I run a Sage healer, well did, and prior to 1.2 I could deal with the attention. With 1.2 I melt when I get out into the field, the DPS burst is just insane right now and healers don't stand much of a chance. On my server I am about the only healer, and the server is heavy imperial. So when we roll into a WZ the Imperial side recognizes my name, Ace'Bandage....

A couple Marauders jump my face and explode me, then go back to exploding everything else. At that point I switch to my Imperial characters and go call them "meany faces" or something childish to make myself feel better.
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Problems of the First World.

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Assaultrooper
04.18.2012 , 01:39 PM | #672
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
This guy might actually have a point though, i heard sorcs got the worst of it. I only speak from personal experience and I honestly dont know any Sorc healers personally in-game. I see this one sorc healer every once in a while and he is getting creamed in 1.2...but he was terrible before 1.2 as well so not much difference lol.
Lets be honest, nerf are the perfect excuse to sucking. I mean as a Marauder if I sucked, I would feel REALLY bad, ya know using the "OP" class and still sucking.... But if I make a sorc and I suck, then i can blame it on the nerfs!! THANKS BIOWARE
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Just wonderin how AP is lookin pvp wise
Could be worse

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curador
04.18.2012 , 01:40 PM | #673
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
I am not wrong. I out-heal DPS all the time. If you cant it is L2P issue.
such a lier

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Khoraji
04.18.2012 , 01:42 PM | #674
Quote: Originally Posted by curador View Post
such a lier
No u...

see what I did there?

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PostalTwinkie
04.18.2012 , 01:42 PM | #675
Quote: Originally Posted by curador View Post
such a lier
No...

It is a lie when you say something and know it to be untrue...

It is a delusion when you say something that is untrue, but believe it...

He is delusional!!
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Problems of the First World.

"My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

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Khoraji
04.18.2012 , 01:43 PM | #676
Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post
No...

It is a lie when you say something and know it to be untrue...

It is a delusion when you say something that is untrue, but believe it...

He is delusional!!
you guys are gonna make me DL fraps aren't you...

The most I can do is post Screenshots when I get home but they never tell the whole story and leave room for excuses.

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Dreydin
04.18.2012 , 01:47 PM | #677
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
Expertise helps healers and only healers. Bonus DMG and Mitigation now Zero each other out. I will say it again, DPS gets NO benefit from expertise because of mitigation while healers still get +12% at full BM.
This alone proves you dont have a clue. So, with my 1158 expertise. Your telling me that my 22% damage increase, and 18% reduction are equal? Do think time to kill isnt affected? And several other relating factors arent also playing into your silly ideas? Everything just balances out to zero? Aside from a bonus to healers?

Expertise changes in the patch only serve to widen the gap, and create disparity between healing and damage. You should stop trying to enlighten people with misinformation...
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MrXen
04.18.2012 , 01:47 PM | #678
All I see here is healers whining they can't eliminate the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs in a warzone allowing their team to automatically have a huge advantage...with the biggest advantage going to the team with most healers (up to 8).


Yes pre 1.2 patch 8 healers > any other combo outside of a more skilled 8 healers. You can "argue" that they wouldn't have enough dps to kill anything for an offensive...but you'd be wrong. 8 healers means an invincible team (literally unkillable) meaning they can slowly dish out numbers (that wouldn't be healed by the enemy team). On top of this most pvp maps revolve around DEFENSIVE strategies and not offensive: look at huttball, the guy who can stay alive is the best ball carrier; look at alderaan, the guys who don't die make sure no one caps their points permanently; look at voidstar, you'll never ever break the first door against 8 healers meaning they can only at WORST tie you or win (impossible to lose).


It needed fixed. What happened? Healing got a slap on the wrist and is still beast. So now instead of 1 healer eliminating the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs it eliminates 1-3, and now we see a bunch of players who are used to being hercules in the warzone capable of fighting 4 men dying to 2 or 3 really good dps freaking out they "can't do anything anymore." Inevitably they will make the argument "think of how YOU won't get heals because we'll all quit" and an estimated 40% will buy that argument, however the intelligent ones know its just a bs ploy to ensure their class+spec combo is better than any of the others.

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Dreydin
04.18.2012 , 01:50 PM | #679
Quote: Originally Posted by MrXen View Post
All I see here is healers whining they can't eliminate the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs in a warzone allowing their team to automatically have a huge advantage...with the biggest advantage going to the team with most healers (up to 8).


Yes pre 1.2 patch 8 healers > any other combo outside of a more skilled 8 healers. You can "argue" that they wouldn't have enough dps to kill anything for an offensive...but you'd be wrong. 8 healers means an invincible team (literally unkillable) meaning they can slowly dish out numbers (that wouldn't be healed by the enemy team). On top of this most pvp maps revolve around DEFENSIVE strategies and not offensive: look at huttball, the guy who can stay alive is the best ball carrier; look at alderaan, the guys who don't die make sure no one caps their points permanently; look at voidstar, you'll never ever break the first door against 8 healers meaning they can only at WORST tie you or win (impossible to lose).


It needed fixed. What happened? Healing got a slap on the wrist and is still beast. So now instead of 1 healer eliminating the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs it eliminates 1-3, and now we see a bunch of players who are used to being hercules in the warzone capable of fighting 4 men dying to 2 or 3 really good dps freaking out they "can't do anything anymore." Inevitably they will make the argument "think of how YOU won't get heals because we'll all quit" and an estimated 40% will buy that argument, however the intelligent ones know its just a bs ploy to ensure their class+spec combo is better than any of the others.
Its all you have seen, cause your blind to reality. You should ask god not to nerf your ability to think properly.
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Lindraskada
04.18.2012 , 01:57 PM | #680
Quote: Originally Posted by MrXen View Post
All I see here is healers whining they can't eliminate the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs in a warzone allowing their team to automatically have a huge advantage...with the biggest advantage going to the team with most healers (up to 8).


Yes pre 1.2 patch 8 healers > any other combo outside of a more skilled 8 healers. You can "argue" that they wouldn't have enough dps to kill anything for an offensive...but you'd be wrong. 8 healers means an invincible team (literally unkillable) meaning they can slowly dish out numbers (that wouldn't be healed by the enemy team). On top of this most pvp maps revolve around DEFENSIVE strategies and not offensive: look at huttball, the guy who can stay alive is the best ball carrier; look at alderaan, the guys who don't die make sure no one caps their points permanently; look at voidstar, you'll never ever break the first door against 8 healers meaning they can only at WORST tie you or win (impossible to lose).


It needed fixed. What happened? Healing got a slap on the wrist and is still beast. So now instead of 1 healer eliminating the effectiveness of 2-4 dps specs it eliminates 1-3, and now we see a bunch of players who are used to being hercules in the warzone capable of fighting 4 men dying to 2 or 3 really good dps freaking out they "can't do anything anymore." Inevitably they will make the argument "think of how YOU won't get heals because we'll all quit" and an estimated 40% will buy that argument, however the intelligent ones know its just a bs ploy to ensure their class+spec combo is better than any of the others.
oh dear. i smell someone who likes to smash his face into his keyboard while playing whatever FOTM reroll is "in" this week and tell everyone how much he rocks

does it not strike you as odd, that when a class or 2 is broken, people name them ? and yet then entire game mechanic is being discussed here ? so everyone playing a healing commando/merc/sage/sorc/agent/smuggler are just whining because they feel like it ?

i really really hope the pendulum swings the other way, and this happens to DPS, and when it does, someone can come in to these posts, and pick the cream of the replies, and just post them one after another at all you lot who will be crying about how tragic your life is