Server population is dropping...

I went to Tatooine last night too. Population there was about 20.

Have you ever played are real MassiveMO? Do you know how it is supposed to work?

If BW sets up a system so that a planet is isolated and a PITA to get to from other planets, and then establishes multiplayer quests, and then sets up servers so that the populations on half the planets even at peak hours are in the range of 3 to 15, there will be almost no multiplayer activity, and next to zero owpvp.

So quit being such a blatant fanboy.

There is a population problem in the vast majority of servers.

The fact that you like solo RPG games does mean that SWTOR is ok. It isn't. It was meant to be an MMO. It isn't.

I have a life/house/mortgage/full-time/wife job and a level 50 on a "dead server". I rerolled to The Fatman and have been enjoying the party ever since This game has been the easiest leveling mmo I have ever played.

I'm on Port Nowhere as well and even though it's above "Standard", it always feels kind of dead, unless it's prime time weekends.

Edit: Example - Last night I was on at 8:30 EST on Port Nowhere (prime time for any timezone) and the population on Hoth was 3... 3 people and I was one of them.

I port back to the fleet - guess how much? 38 prime time. This is getting unbelievable.

Lets take the sagacious advice of some of the BW defenders: There is no problem with server populations. Everyone just stop playing your character on all but 2 or 3 servers and create new characters on those 2 or 3. Problem solved. Now for those of you unlucky enough to have been playing for the past several months on those 2 or 3 servers, well tough luck. It is only a game. So what if you spent a lot of time developing crafting skills and increasing your legacy. Just play nonstop for the next month and you will be ok. Yes, you might have reverse engineered all of the designs for all arms, or armor, etc., and it took you four months to do it, but be like that guy who re-rolled (and allegedly has a life), and just redo the same thing, again. From scratch. Same thing for reobtaining your level 30 legacy. Just do it all over. Because it is too much trouble for BW to do a merger.
See, there is no need for BW to do a server merger. We can do it ourselves, by depopulating all but the 2 or 3 selected servers that we will play on, and rerolling starting over.

Given your penchant for baseless personal attacks, in your particular case I elect not to believe that your server had 20 players on Tatooine during a time when the server also had a Standard population (which is what we are discussing).



More personal attacks. I have played plenty of MMOs, starting in 1999.



BioWare has announced server transfers (the Asian-Pacific ones just rolled out), so I'm not even sure what it is you are complaining about, other than complaining for the sake of complaining. We get that you are unhappy. But that doesn't mean the game is dying or that others don't enjoy the game.



More personal attacks. You found someone who doesn't agree with your view and who challenges the evidence you present, and the only thing you can do is resort to name calling. I am really curious what you think you will accomplish by this, other than expose yourself as a poor debater.



You have provided exactly zero evidence to support that there is population problem in the vast majority of servers. Right now, the vast majority of servers average at Standard, Heavy, or Very Heavy with only 29% listing as Light, according to torstatus.net. In order to prove that the "vast majority of servers" have a "population problem" you would first need to define what "population problem" means, and then demonstrate that the majority of servers with a load of Standard fall under your defined threshold. You have done nothing of the sort. You have provided anecdotal evidence from one server, which, in my opinion based on your inability to remain civil, is evidence of questionable reputability. "Vast majority" does not mean "some" or "a few". It means "many more than 50%". I'd settle for you proving that 70% of servers have a population problem.



I enjoy solo RPGs and I enjoy multiplayer RPGs and I enjoy MMO RPGs. I have no problems finding groups. I play on a server with a standard load and am a member of a fantastic guild of active, mostly older players.

So, my anecdotal evidence cancels out your anecdotal evidence. Your move.

Lets take the sagacious advice of some of the BW defenders: There is no problem with server populations

The fact that you attack my points with responses that ignore facts or logic is fine with me.

have shown facts: On servers with posted population levels of Standard the number of players at prime time is in the range of 3-15. this is not "anecdotal evidence".

Now to you that doesnt mean there is a "population problem".

The fact that you use the subjective term "population problem" to equate with a complete inability to even do a solo mission, or the inablity to do a multiplayer mission on every single planet at the same time, means only that you dont have the ability to think logically.

When they finally get around to the mergers in six months they will have lost thousands of subscribers and will be F2P.

Whomever at BW is behind the delays and is ignoring the obvious should be fired. At my company, this level of incompetence would not be tolerated.

I stopped reading right there. This is what I am saying: "Just because you perceive that there is problem on your server, it doesn't mean there is a problem on most servers or that the game is dying."

If it is fine with you, then one has to wonder why you continue?



Yes it is anecdotal evidence. You are trying to make a conclusion about the player population as a whole, based on evidence that is neither a random sample nor representative. Let me give you an analogy: "My uncle smoked all his life and lived until he was 100. Therefore, smoking is not dangerous to your health." Do you see the problem with this?



I have never said anything of the sort. What I have said is that you have provided zero evidence for your statement "there is a population problem in the vast majority of servers." If you would stick to what I have actually said, instead of making things up, we would have a much more constructive debate.



The term was yours, that is why I put it in quotation marks. Your accusations of illogical thinking might be a bit misplaced here.



If you are right, and they lose, let's say, 10,000 subscribers because of lack of transfers, this would be a drop of 0.5% of subscribers. As for your prediction that the game will be free to play in six months, I am willing to make a significant bet with you that this will not be the case.



At my company we know that it is better to take the time to roll out something that works properly than to rush to delivery. We also don't jump to conclusions without having the facts. I suspect you have never been in the position to terminate an employee for cause. It is not something you do because of a delay and it is not a decision taken lightly.