Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

When looking for a group involves spending a lot of time not actually playing the game, then there are problems. Standard is not perspective, standard is something that the majority of products in a market have. That is the definition of it.

You don't want an automated Group Finder tool, well sorry to say they are already working on one, so you'll have to deal with it. Or you know, just not use it since it's entirely optional.

Fun fact, this is a game. I'm willing to bet money that a majority of the players in this game (not on these forums but in the game itself) are paying their monthly fee to play a game, not make friends.

You want to make friends, go join a chat room. We want to play a game here.

Also, this is meant to be an MMO. That stands for Massively Multiplayer. Limiting who you can play with and segregating server communities works as the opposite of that.

I edited my last post to elaborate.

I'm not saying to go find the person who's going to be best man (Or maid of honor) at your wedding. You're right. It is a game. Aren't games more fun when you play with people you actually like and have gotten to know? If this isn't true, then entire guilds wouldn't change servers with each other and wouldn't go to entirely new MMO's together.

I'm only against Cross-Server dungeon finder tools, and Cross Server PvPing. Single server tools are a grand idea to me. That'll connect you to people with similar interests and common goals, thus helping you find people on your OWN server that you can continue to play with (If you enjoyed the experience of playing with them, of course).

EDIT: And you're right, they are working on a dungeon finder, but it's a single server finder (which again, I'm completely cool with), and they have no plans to create a X-Server one, and I hope they keep it that way.

They do have plans for Cross Server Dungeon tool, they're just going to try out single server first.
Cross Server PVP is already coming out in the next patch too.

I do enjoy a game more when I play with people I like. Hence why I join a guild. But for those who are on low population servers or play at random non-peak times, then getting a group is very difficult. Single-Server won't help them because there's not enough people on their server at that time to group with.

Server Merges would be good yes, but Bioware will not do that anytime soon because, as has been said, it is a sign to their investors that they made mistakes and they're losing subscribers. It doesn't have to be massively true but that's the way their investors will see it and so Bioware will not want to do that.

Also, I can tell you are someone who does not need to use it. It's funny that everyone against it are ones those who don't need to use it.

Yes, Cross-Server PvP is coming out in the next patched, which I am pissed about, but there is nothing I can do about that. If you go to the first page of this thread, a mod (or dev, or whatever you want to call them) quoted another mod/dev/etc saying Cross-Server Flashpoints are NOT in the works. If that changed since that was posted, then everything I've said is useless anyway, but oh well. I don't sit in these forums very often. I probably have under 20 posts.

And you're wrong. I leveled as healing just so finding a group to do a flash point would be easier, it wasn't. So what did I do? I went and found a guild I enjoy playing with, and then if I need to do a flash point, I ask them, sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't. If they don't I look elsewhere. I'm on Darth Malak. It's pretty low pop, especially for republic. I'm not for or against ideas because they make things easier, I'm for or against them because of how I feel about its impact on the game overall. I'm not saying my opinion is right, it's my opinion. I do believe my opinion is a valid one, with good reasons for backing it up.

So what are your reasons for not allowing players to enjoy Flashpoints with players from other servers?

Hopefully not "it destroys communities, other players are mean and nasty!" because that's a really tired argument.

I never said they were mean or nasty, lol. You're taking a sentence from an entire argument and twisting it to how you see fit. It has nothing to do with the people, it has to do with them not being on your server. It takes away server competitiveness. Games are meant to be competitive, whether it's against actual people or the CPU. If people weren't competitive by nature then most of today's video games wouldn't exist. Cross Server PvE causes there to be no reason for people to strive to be better PvE'ers and get into a good PvE guild. They won't need to learn to play their class better. They won't have to compete for raid spots. There is no reason to strive to be better. They can just queue for it. They don't need to interact with people on their own server, they can group with anyone. How does that not seem damaging? That will do more damage to individual servers than good. And yes, then you take into the account the people you end up playing with. Most of these flashpoint groups will be unsuccessful, leading players to become more frustrated. Population is the issue, and cross server anything is merely a "quick fix" to save face. SWTOR may look bad to investors if they shut some servers down, but they are going to look even worse when this fixes nothing and then have absolutely no choice but to take down the servers. They'd rather keep things going for a bit longer, than take a loss and have it pick up in the future. Take Blizzard for example, yes, they are smart business men and have had the leading MMO for many years. They recently (within the past, what? 2-3 years?) added this tool, and they have to give D3 out for FREE to try and keep subscribers. I'm not saying "oh, cross server pve is what killed wow" what I'm saying is, it didn't do anything to make people stay. Just as I'm sure it won't do that here.

And quite frankly, I think I'm done responding. I have no problem debating with someone who will actually take into account the other sides opinion, but for someone to completely write the other side off as QQing and only selectively read what they feel they can dispute, there's just no point.

Good, because I honestly disagree with everything you have said, and you seem to want to discuss your opinion with someone you can change the mind of, rather than someone who doesn't agree with you.

apparently he knows little about the situation of WOW. The fraction of people left in my WOW guild who are still playing are all saying good things about LFR tool. Because that's their ONLY way to go to dragon soul. People have different schedules and so and it is extremely hard for them to form group regularly.
I can't say this is the only reason they shelled out 1 year subscription money (the decision which i will never understand), but if they are using the tool regularly, i would say it helps.

Exactly. My guild pretty much entirely quit due to boredom of the content, and I wanted to see the Dragon Soul raid before quitting. However getting into a pug was a nightmare because I'd never run it before. Thankfully the LFR allowed me to see the content for which I am happy. And I had no problems running it with people.