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Drunkenpig
04.18.2012 , 06:32 AM | #561
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
Repeating bad information doesn't make the information good. You present no evidence that 350 players combined triggers a load rating of Standard, and even if you did, you have no information whatsoever on the distribution of concurrent players among the servers rated Standard.



By making statements that are not backed by any evidence and by calling your co-players "kiddies" you only undermine your own credibility. If you have any evidence that 1.2 only resulted in a minor population increase, please share it.
Here's a fact: Last night Naddist Rebels was rated "standard". For over an hour at prime time (8 pm), the population on Voss was FOUR. Before then, I had been on Belsavis. At "standard" it was EIGHT.
At those levels it is not possible to do a four man. And forget any open world pvp. It is possible, but rare. Sort of like getting a rare drop from a mob. All people do now is hang around fleet to do some warzones. Whoopie. Hutball for the five hundreth (or more) time. So multiplayer is the warzone, and otherwise it is solo RPG. A merger is needed and it would fix these problems. To state otherwise is to show complete denial or lack of understanding.
As for transfers, they would have to be unlimited and free, otherwise you might make the mistake of picking a server that you thought was going to be populated, but the people there left it. And your friends will be split up and you will never see them again, unless you coordinate the transfers in advance. Good luck with that.

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Gaxar
04.18.2012 , 07:02 AM | #562
well regardless of factual numbers regarding the state of all servers, my entire guid of 20+ quit this week, completely disillusioned with whats going on in this game.

the pulling of rated warzones (however right the decision may be) was the final nail which would have kept them playing. As such we've all pre ordered Tera to give that a go until GW2 and TSW world come out.

Its sad really, all our hopes for the 2 years we were following this game up to launch and it lasted us not even 4 months (cleared everything NMM 2 months ago).

Personally i hope we give it another go in 6 months when maybe BW have un****ed themsleves but by that time we will have played these other games and may not be willing to move back en masse.

i alone renewed for another month as i am still enjoying levelling my 6th 50, a consular but i cant see that lasting much longer. Anyway, i hope the server population situation is sorted for you guys but this has got to go down as the most eagerly anticipated flop in MMO history.
Impressiiiiiiiiive......Most impressive.

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Frostvein
04.18.2012 , 07:22 AM | #563
I'm actually of the school of thought population per server increased with 1.2 - but the impact was insignificant on many servers. At the high end population ones, you didn't notice, and on the low end you didn't either. The middle servers probably enjoyed the biggest improvement overall, and I'm happy for them. I just don't see this lasting.

But really, when you can /who everyone on your server and the count is under 200 per side, then yea, that just simply isn't enough and server mergers are going to be needed.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"

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Photoshop
04.18.2012 , 07:25 AM | #564
Everyone that complains about their "dead server" just needs to reroll to The Fatman. I have yet to see a planet on Fatman with less than 50 people during off-peak and less than 80 during on-peak.

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Kthx
04.18.2012 , 07:43 AM | #565
Quote: Originally Posted by Drunkenpig View Post
Here's a fact: Last night Naddist Rebels was rated "standard". For over an hour at prime time (8 pm), the population on Voss was FOUR. Before then, I had been on Belsavis. At "standard" it was EIGHT.
How does this prove that the population of Standard means less than 350? It is just as likely that a large section of players were on Tatooine for the world event. Moreover, even if it is true that your server population is low, how does this prove that a significant subset of servers rated as Standard have the same problem? Answer: It doesn't.

Btw, even on my server (Standard with a very healthy population), the number of players on Voss tends to be low. This is because of where it occurs in the class quest chain.

Let us know what the population on Naddist Rebels is tonight on Tatooine at 8 p.m. At least that has some relevance to the case you are trying to make.

Somehow those of you who are trying to make the connection that "low server populations = game is dying" seem to think that those of us who enjoy the game are too daft to be able to review, understand, and interpret data. Making up evidence and misconstruing facts does not strenghten your case.

Quote: Originally Posted by Drunkenpig View Post
To state otherwise is to show complete denial or lack of understanding.
Throwing around insults and generalizations also does not strengthen your case – quite the opposite.

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MeshuggahRift
04.18.2012 , 07:44 AM | #566
Quote: Originally Posted by Photoshop View Post
Everyone that complains about their "dead server" just needs to reroll to The Fatman. I have yet to see a planet on Fatman with less than 50 people during off-peak and less than 80 during on-peak.
You make re-rolling sound like its a viable option for us with lives/families/children.

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Drunkenpig
04.18.2012 , 08:20 AM | #567
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
How does this prove that the population of Standard means less than 350? It is just as likely that a large section of players were on Tatooine for the world event. Moreover, even if it is true that your server population is low, how does this prove that a significant subset of servers rated as Standard have the same problem? Answer: It doesn't.

Btw, even on my server (Standard with a very healthy population), the number of players on Voss tends to be low. This is because of where it occurs in the class quest chain.

Let us know what the population on Naddist Rebels is tonight on Tatooine at 8 p.m. At least that has some relevance to the case you are trying to make.

Somehow those of you who are trying to make the connection that "low server populations = game is dying" seem to think that those of us who enjoy the game are too daft to be able to review, understand, and interpret data. Making up evidence and misconstruing facts does not strenghten your case.



Throwing around insults and generalizations also does not strengthen your case – quite the opposite.
I went to Tatooine last night too. Population there was about 20. Wow.
Have you ever played are real MassiveMO? Do you know how it is supposed to work? I think not. Here, let me explain it to you: If BW sets up a system so that a planet is isolated and a PITA to get to from other planets, and then establishes multiplayer quests, and then sets up servers so that the populations on half the planets even at peak hours are in the range of 3 to 15, there will be almost no multiplayer activity, and next to zero owpvp.
So quit being such a blatant fanboy. There is a population problem in the vast majority of servers.
The fact that you like solo RPG games does mean that SWTOR is ok. It isn't. It was meant to be an MMO. It isn't.
End of story.

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Drunkenpig
04.18.2012 , 08:56 AM | #568
Quote: Originally Posted by MeshuggahRift View Post
You make re-rolling sound like its a viable option for us with lives/families/children.
Yep. Your really have to wonder about people who think that rerolling to Fatman is a good fix...

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Photoshop
04.18.2012 , 08:59 AM | #569
Quote: Originally Posted by MeshuggahRift View Post
You make re-rolling sound like its a viable option for us with lives/families/children.
I have a life/house/mortgage/full-time/wife job and a level 50 on a "dead server". I rerolled to The Fatman and have been enjoying the party ever since This game has been the easiest leveling mmo I have ever played.

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rakuenCallisto
04.18.2012 , 10:03 AM | #570
Quote: Originally Posted by legsepl View Post
Port nowhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back please xd
I'm on Port Nowhere as well and even though it's above "Standard", it always feels kind of dead, unless it's prime time weekends.

Edit: Example - Last night I was on at 8:30 EST on Port Nowhere (prime time for any timezone) and the population on Hoth was 3... 3 people and I was one of them.

I port back to the fleet - guess how much? 38 prime time. This is getting unbelievable.
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