I really like the game - but why I don't want to come back

Trust me, you are "happy". You think you're not. You are. Because when you get what you want, it always ends up somehow not being "right". And then you come back here and moan about how it still doesn't feel right, no matter how many tweaks and fixes and patches go in.

Raid the enemy capital? "Biowaaaaaaare, people told the other side that my raid was going oooon! We never even got into the capitaaaaal! This is dumb and unfair and I'm unsubbing!"

Pazaak? "Biowaaaaaaare, these minigames are a huge credit siiiiink. I bet 500 creds but I lost 10,000! This is stupid and unfair and I'm unsubbing!"

Player created content? "Biowaaaaare, I'm bored of all these stupid fan stories! I pay you to make up storylines. Why am I doing all the woooooork? This is idiotic and unfair and I'm unsubbing!"

Everytime a game gives you something to do, 9 times out of 10, you just do it once to have a woohoo moment then go right back to the grind.

Honestly, you don't play video games to feel fulfilled. You play them to eat up the huge chunks of time in your life until something else takes up that time. Usually it's a baby or a job. Rare case, coma.

But ultimately just time wasting. And that's what the grind does. Eats up your time. Nom nom nom nom nom.

You took a long time to write many incorrect statements.

I played WoW for four years. I raided many capital cities, explored many regions, took part in lots of open world PvP, etc etc. I never took part in grindy activities in WoW; I didn't do dailies, I never stockpiled gold, I didn't grind reputation. I did what I wanted, and when I couldn't I logged off and did something else.

I've played TOR for four months. My subscription is cancelled and expires tonight.

You can type and second guess my words as much as you like; not everyone has the same motivations... and again the inclusion of those things do not remove dailies or more grindy elements, do they? (a question you managed to side-step quite expertly). Again; legacy didn't need to be a credit sync, it could have been an incredible quest list. 1.2 could have dropped and the galaxy could have been flooded with people playing new quests, with specific goals that they deemed important.

Options in an MMO is a good thing. Repetition isn't. Don't begin to assume you know how everyone will react to them.

It would be hard to disagree more with this foolishness.

This game is linear, grindy, and boring after your first level 50 character. My sub runs out tomorrow and I deleted it off my PC last night. I hadn't played WoW in 9 months, but last week I resubbed and am having a blast with my first Horde character. This game had a shot, but unfortunately, it has been squandered on half-baked ideas and time sinks that aren't even enjoyable. Basic modern conveniences are also missing that makes it impossible to enjoy some of the content.

Do I wish ill will on this game or its players, absolutely not! I hope it succeeds and thrives and provides plenty of entertainment for years to come for those that enjoy it. But for me... it was good for a month, but that was about it.

But dear sir, nobody really cares about your rants and your complaints. Like WoW? Play WoW. This game has something that no other MMORPG has, and that is the storytelling. Like GW2 dynamic events, then bug off and play GW2 when it comes out, nobody wants to hear you whine. BW/EA isn't forcing you to play, they already have a healthy playerbase that is larger than what WoW had in its first 5/6 months and whose to say it won't grow. This is a great game, we don't want people like you spreading negativity everywhere WHERE THERE CAN BE FREAKIN SITH FLOWERS THAT GIVE HAPPINESS AND LOVE. :

Its an interesting thing the one you're talking about guys.

In my opinion all those repetition problems is why i realiced i'm more a PvP player than a PvE one.
No matter what PvE will end being boring and repetitive. You may try new challenges like raiding naked or other kind of things but its still the same.

In the other hand we have PvP wich can be different everytime you play. WZs are definitely not the best example of it but Open world pvp is.
I played Warhammer online before this i must admit that my favourite momments where when my friends and i came out to open pvp alone and challenged ourselves against larger or better geared players.

There is no need of 300 hours of farming to get a 5 min "WOW i do rock!" feeling.

PvE will always be grind 90% of the time.
PvP may be the answer for all those who are tired of it.

I want to hear him whine... This is a forum. People talk/complain/argue/agree. You don't like that? Bug off and play the game then. To quote your rudeness sir.

I agree in some ways, but if I want to PvP I will play COD. PvP in an MMO is always broken in some way.. and that too is a grind in a way, because you have to "grind" WZ's for better gear to be or continue to be competitive.

It's the endless daily grind that will turn me away from the game. I refuse to daily grind in a game again like wow.

Oh sweet forum poster, it's great that you love this game and will continue to play it. I'm happy for you, really. But don't mistake feedback and the oppurtunity to express it as spreading negativity; this thread is about why people are nolonger playing TOR, and these forums are an outlet for the player base to express their feelings. If you came in here expecting anything else you're a fool.

I, along with the vast majority of my guild, have now cancelled our subscriptions. I won't be going back to WoW, i'll instead go and play something else in future; TSW or GW2, for example.

As an aside and something for you to think about; if people are cancelling their subscriptions (as I assure you they are), yet the player base totals remain about the same, how is that a healthy playerbase? That's churn my friend. 30 days free? Really? You think that's the sign of healthy numbers? Have a month completely free as long as you're still a subscriber after the sub renewal date! Oh, and have a tauntaun! Bioware have crafted a great story telling experience and I enjoyed it very much... however as an MMO this is lacking and needs love. I'm sure they'll do it, and i'll check it out again in the future.

People are choosing to leave this game for very valid reasons. It's not whining to express them; it's honest, and as there is no other way to express our feelings to Bioware then you're being a troll by belittling and marginalising the people that do.

Yeah, I'm so happy I just cancelled my sub. Yay!