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prideaux
04.17.2012 , 08:44 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
What you should have learned is not to use AoE around flagged enemies.

It's all about situational awareness.
Not so much... i was doing the Sand People quest, i wasnt flagged. there was like 4 republic guys around, no Sith that i could see. I was killing an Infected beast (so a single mob, so didnt use any of my Sentinel AoEs) suddenly there is all this fighting around me. Like 20 red sand people, a few of those infect beasts all attacking me. So i started AoEing to survive. I finish killing everything i had like 25% left, i take a breath and then i see two red 50 Sith (im 49) pop out of invis and kill me within moments.

I like seeing Sith around and in fact its the worse part of this game for so long the sides are separated... but there is something messed up with the World Event with relation to PVP. Although more than likely its that some PVP players know how to bend the rules to force it on to those that dont.

EG i go on my merry way after that, amused and laughing about it. but then i was trying to do the last part of the Mural quest, still unwanting flagged, i got grieved three times in 15mins BY THE SAME TWO SITH. alas it was late and all my guildies weren't close enough to help. It stopped being funny and pure bullying.

Its not about being situational, its about casual gamers like myself who play on a PVE server trying to do a world event but being forced (somehow??) into PVP... as PVE player i dont know and frankly shouldn't need to know the rules of flagging for PVP.

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-Kane
04.17.2012 , 09:00 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Socialist View Post
Level 50 lads ganking lowbies is a depressing sight.


It is like that scumbag 21 years old who is still in high school bullying the Grade 8 kids.

I still don't know why do people do it.
Just think of it as Anakin killing the younglings.. It's the sith way

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ThunderVamp
04.17.2012 , 10:48 PM | #53
I agree this is a problem. I got ganked by like, 15 Imps two nights ago while just sitting waiting for a spawn. I was not flagged for PVP, I was not grouped with anyone at all, let alone anyone who was flagged for PVP, I was not fighting mobs, I was vaccinated from the plague and my hands were not even touching the KB/Mouse when suddenly BAM! I'm flagged and wiped out. That's a problem. If I wanted to PVP I'd be in a PVP area or on a PVP server.

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CecilTellyn
04.17.2012 , 11:07 PM | #54
I can confirm this happening as well. I was fighting the ghouls that come out of the escape pod by the Sand People Mural and while I was doing so, this ******e that was completely decked out in PvP gear came up. He started attacking the MOBs which... flagged me? I have no idea how but I all of a sudden got flagged. Well, I'm level 50 as well but I stand no chance vs someone who obviously likes to grind PvP to get that stupid looking gear.

Bioware should figure out what exactly is causing this because this is obviously not working at intended.

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Gruug
04.17.2012 , 11:19 PM | #55
All you need to do if you are a non-pvp flagged player is to right click on a flagged pvp player. Instantly flags the previously non-pvp player as pvp. Many pvp flagged players, Imp and Rep, are running in and putting themselves into places between a clickable world quest object and non-pvp players just to have that same non-pvp player click on them. There is no warning and sometimes you do not even know that there is a pvp flagged player nearby until he steps in front of you.

PvP in this game is suppose to be by CHOICE. If you stray into a PVP zone in the open world you are allowed a countdown timer and and chance to retreat so you are not flagged. The only other way you can pvp is if you choose to particapte in Warzones/Huttball but that again is by CHOICE. There should be no other mechanic that forces you into a pvp situation.

The above "click" pvp situation could easily be fixed by putting a pop-up that asks if you wish to be flagged for pvp.

Pvp in this game should never be forced upon you.


Give me an MMO that I can visit and have fun! Where what I pay for is not going to those that play for free.

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Hajizan
04.18.2012 , 12:01 AM | #56
All that 2 people of the opposite faction have to do is have a "duel" near your companion hitting it with a aoe. When your companion retaliates you get flagged for pvp.

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RefugeASSASSIN
04.18.2012 , 10:53 AM | #57
Right click your portrait, flag yourself manually then right click again and unflag yourself. Go to a base and wait for 5 minutes, get a drink or take a piss or something and your flag will be gone.

Personally while running these I havent actively went looking for low level people to gank, but If I run across you and your flagged, plan on getting hit.

And no I dont suck at PVP so you can save those comments.

Your playing a game involving 2 factions at war so dont expect water balloons and pillow fights if your flagged.
Keefan Noonan
Darkness Tankasin
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Raximillian
04.19.2012 , 07:11 AM | #58
BW should make sure to disable involuntary PVP. You should not even be allowed to attack a flagged player. The only way to go into PVP should be by the a /pvp setting, or a button or something.

I know that the great majority of players just play for fun, and not to grief others. But a few bad apples can mess up the whole game for some players. So BW should really look into this, and disable all options to force-flag other people.

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Evangolis
04.19.2012 , 07:31 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Coconutmunkee View Post
Because imperials have never ganked republic players.
I actually spared 4 level 30+ pub's near the crash site a day ago. It would have been like killing children. However, since you have such a embracing attitude on this matter I will exterminate the next batch regardless of level. The idea was an exploit used, not who's ganking who.
Recruiting all classes.

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Evangolis
04.19.2012 , 07:37 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by -Kane View Post
Just think of it as Anakin killing the younglings.. It's the sith way
No,
There is nothing gained by killing those weaker then yourself. There is no honor in it and it damn sure is not glorious by any means. An old Tiger will kill rabbits and frogs because its not able to hunt for its self anymore. That is still a matter of survival. Killing lowbies is just a complete display of weakness.
Recruiting all classes.