The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

Um, I wasn't telling YOU anything. But since you want to make this a competition, congratulations, you win. Enjoy your empty game. I mean over-populated game.

It's bleeding at the moment, but I think it'll settle around 750k-1m players. Game has plenty of things to keep it going, but also plenty of points where it can and needs to be better.

I'm subbed for about 3 months, and got a month for free with the level 50 promotion. So I'll keep playing, if I stick around enterily depends upto BW's way of handeling some (mostly minor) issues.

And to the doom sayers, you don't need 10m subs in order to be "successful".

I don't understand what direction the team is taking that you don't like. I think they have made some great improvements. I really think the legacy system is unique and I believe that they have implemented some welcome changes that the community has been asking for. Such as UI Customization. The direction that they took with adding full voice acting and a main epic story arc to an MMO is a positive direction that is greatly enjoyed by people like me who are PVE and solo a good portion of the time. I don't think that the team has made any blunders yet. This isn't Star Wars Galaxies!

Interesting reads.

Something stands out to me, however.

The article suggests that unit sales of the Old Republic has reached 3 million but suffers from "declining subscribers." Does this mean that the subscriptions increased to (using arbitrary numbers here) 2.5 million but has gone down to 2.2 million? Or does it mean that, despite selling an additional million units, they have lost subscribers?

I don't think it's the latter at all. I don't think ANY MMO can go up a million units and decrease in total subscribers in a short period of time.

So does this mean that subscribers have ballooned and we're over 2 million with the "declining subscriptions?"

Interesting.

Ugh, these threads are about as bad as all the Bioware ruined my life threads. Is there really nothing better to do than post these ridiculous doomsday speculation threads?

But BioWare did ruin our lives! OMG! Have you NOT been paying attention!??!!??!?!?!

Look at the screenshot on this website, its SWTOR will all servers full with a Q. The only thing thats dying is SWTOR and Joystiq's article because its obviously dated.

Here is the thing, people do not want unique features. They want everything that WoW has and that is it. I have heard many people complain about the legacy feature and that they should have made 1.2 about LFG.

I do not care about LFG. The legacy system is an amazing feature that I love. It is a truly unique feature in MMOs.

People need to wake up and realize that this game, and any other game, will NEVER have WoW's numbers. Even WoW 2 and Titan will not have 10 million subscribers. There are just too many choices out there now to reach that many players.

Tell me about it. I find it very hard to come on the forums these days. It's just this...Everywhere you look. Ugh..

Yes, its not dying your right! They have about 40 servers to many is all.