A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

Hehe ... yeah you are right... most of the pages in this thread says the same thing over. And obviously everyone will defend their own class.

But some good things are being said on these forums. Things that BW should at least take into consideration. Since they are suppose to be the ones who know what is ballanced and what isn't... after all... they made the game... they should be able to see who is just whining and who is trying to be constructive.

I'm sure the healers are not the only ones who's skills got hit/adjusted/nerfed (take your pick). This thread happens to be about healers.

And it depends on the kind of healer you play, gear, playstyle, etc.. , whether or not you agree with things being said here, I'm sure.

Yes the healer is suppose to be a support class. They should not be able to kill anyone... they are healers after all... but that doesn't mean that everybody should just simply be able to kill them either. They are healers after all....

It's probably hard for Bioware to please both the PVE and the PVP crowd.

Healers in PVP are expected to keep up their teammates to a certain point, but also able to take care of themselves to some point. They should not be dependent on other classes to protect them, unless overwhelmed by more than 1 dps, which is often the case when focused. They should not be cannonfodder. At least I don't think.

Healers in PVE are expected to keep up their teammates against several strong mobs in operations. In most operations there are 2 healers to keep up the 6 others (8man ops that is). These mobs in operations are not weak and laughable compared to PVP players. They hit hard. And in an operation the healers are expected to keep their dps and tank(s) up through those hits.

Bioware is expected to balance both (different) healingstyles and combine it in skills that are suppose to be perfectly ballanced for both PVE and PVP. That is not an easy task by any means.

The same goes for dps and tanks. In PVE a tank is supposed to be able to keep the attention of a boss and take huge amounts of damage while being healed. But if they are able to take a lot of dmg in PVP, there is always the chance someone complains they are OP, because they are not easily taken down.

The DPS is suppose to do a lot of dmg, because if they don't... in PVE the boss enrages and everybody dies. So lot of dmg is needed for a dps in PVE. But in PVP when they do so much dmg... the healers die easily.

I applaud Bioware for trying so hard to ballance all of these elements out in all classes. It's not easy to please all the crowd.

These forums are suppose to be about tips and comments on how this can be achieved (at least I think) for each class.

Sometimes unfortunately it ends up a insult fest of people disagreeing with eachother. I know I have seen myself drawn into arguments and QQ's and sarcasm. I guess even I sometimes forget what these forums are suppose to be for: Improving the game. Not bashing at different opinions .

To fix class in balance the people who got nerfed need to reroll a class that didnt. I play a sage ( Full BM & Rakata) and i am rerolling a sentinel. So if you are unhappy with your class and you havent unsub'd yet you got two choices. Reroll or SUCK IT UP. Btw if you all reroll they will nerf the sents and the vanguards etc because there are so many of them face rolling the people who didnt change, then you go back to your sage and watch all these people cry about how there class got nerfed.

Or unsub. That is also an option.

You have to remember that people pay a monthly subscription in order to have fun. If the playstyle they most enjoy is no longer viable then it is also no longer fun. Intelligent people will do a cost-benefit analysis and realize that they are paying the same amount of money for something that has become less fun. If they can rationalize the cost as still being reasonable then they will reroll or "suck it up". If they cannot rationalize the cost as still being reasonable they will just stop paying.

yeah unfortunately, i have a bm dpser...

these changes are boring the crap out of me. I actually wanted to get into my healer more.

I just feel that a game like this if they want my money they need to seriuosly stop making decisions like they did in Warhammer online

I dont get it? didn't they learn anything from the HUGE mistakes they did from warhammer?

that game is dying and has no dev support but maybe 1 or 2.... This game was suppose to hit huge... but mistake after mistake.... they are shooting themselves in the foot.

I have 4 characters that are all 40+... i get tired of rerolling too. 2 of which are BM'd out.

i still have months left on my 6 months. They have till then to make a serious comeback or I just leave the sub off.

This again?

Expertise gives healers a huge boost compared to DPS.

If you can't keep a person alive in a 2 vs 1 situation, it's an L2P issue, either from you or your DPS'er... simple as that

I do agree that it's difficult to win a 2vs2 encounter where your opponents are two DPS'ers smashing on your DPS'er and you are trying to heal through it. But I tend to stall for time by using my stuns. If I kick debilitate my opponent I have either gained 4 or 8 seconds of healing. (4 if he keeps his freebie card for my 8 second mez, 8 if not). These seconds are very important for adding extra survivability, effectively turning my 1 partner into a 1,3 partner)

I am Imperial Agent, 1.2 has benefited me in a lot of ways. These nerfs don't affect me as much because of my mobility. I do feel very sorry for my turret colleagues!

Dont feel sorry for me (merc healer), we are still perfectly fine, dont listen to the QQ.

Expertise may give healing a bigger percentage, however healing overall was nerfed and is subject to trauma while DPS was buffed leading to a net DPS gain over healing.

Plus the Sorcerer healer dynamic has changed and healing output has plummeted as a result, and that's when freecasting. If you have a DPS on you you can't get a single heal off.

Trauma should never be in this discussion. It has been around since launch. Trauma is there ONLY because PvE healers need to heal through boss dmg, it is NOT meant to balance DPS/Healing in pvp.

Sorc healing may be broken... i dont know about them. But OPS and Mercs are still out-healing any dps.

We were OP before. Now it is a bit more difficult.

I have seen Sorcs and Mercs (or the Rep counterpart) that still outheal me at times, so off course I will take everything with a grain of salt. :-) I just wanted to show my sympathy to people that didn't really had to work pre 1.2, but now they do.

I have worked my butt of learning to play with my Agent, and they need to bring on big nerves before I really think I can't do my job.

As I said, turning 3 players into 5 players via healing, that's my job. If the receivers can't use that bonus well, that's not my fault. If I can't make that transformation, it's my fault... simple as that.