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All sports competitors are compensated for participation

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DakataTan
04.15.2012 , 10:51 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by thomasmeadows View Post
40 comms for losing
fixed that for ya.
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thomasmeadows
04.15.2012 , 11:30 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by DakataTan View Post
fixed that for ya.
NSS, the idea of the thread is that it is about loosing, yet here is a better example though

420k DMG Dealt, 11 meadals for 2000 valor and 40 comms. I guess i'm just not trying hard enough. Loosing a game is a total wast of time, i'm leaving games i know i'm going to loose from now on. Even if their was a debuff for leaving war zones early, I'd still leave it early for that crappy of a reward.

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DakataTan
04.15.2012 , 11:34 PM | #183
you still lost. 42 for failure is decent imo.
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johnkevin
04.15.2012 , 11:45 PM | #184
Have we had anyone from BW comment on this, because it is a serious issue! This as well as armor set bonus transfers for BM gear to orange gear so we all don't look the same in WZ's

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thomasmeadows
04.16.2012 , 12:19 AM | #185
/sarcasm

wii im having so much fun getting crappy rewards. Wiii, I use jedi powers to get frustrated and rage quit.


In the absoulate best case scenerio i get 50 comms....

/sarcasm

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jolleebindu
04.16.2012 , 12:22 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Astraius View Post
What is annoying is people have missed the actual problem.

It is the leaving. Which results in another person joining an in progress match whereby it is extremely difficult for them to achieve said medals. Also there seems to be a link between how long the individual has spent in the warzone and the amount of commendations earned.

Leaving needs to be met with a harsh penalty. 1 hour queue block? Lose the amount of commendations you would of have achieved for repeated leaving? Severe queue dodging resulting in a pvp queue ban? That would stop all leaving for sure.

The other problem with pvp is people become to fixated on the rewards and stop playing pvp for what it is. player vs player. It is the fighting that is the fun part, winning is an added bonus as someone stated. If you claim to enjoy pvp and are whinging about the rewards you clearly missed the point of pvp.
if the problem was the leaving then matches wouldn't be starting with partially filled teams

if leaving is the problem then why wasn't it such a big problem pre 1.2 - the ability to leave was there too. The fact that it is more of a problem now points to something else being the issue.
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jolleebindu
04.16.2012 , 12:24 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by DakataTan View Post
you still lost. 42 for failure is decent imo.
team failure and personal failure are different in a pug

having your rewards so strongly tied to your pug team doesn't make sense

its fine for rated/premades - but this isn't the case
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thomasmeadows
04.16.2012 , 12:34 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by jolleebindu View Post
team failure and personal failure are different in a pug

having your rewards so strongly tied to your pug team doesn't make sense

its fine for rated/premades - but this isn't the case
and I will leave every warzone if i have the slightest chance of getting rewards like this when i loose.

....in my worst case scenerio

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fungihoujo
04.16.2012 , 12:36 AM | #189
In sports though, it's a job as much as a game.


This is just a game, so it makes sense for them to treat people who participate but don't do well like trash. And it makes sense that you have to do hundreds of hours of losing before you get decent gear- cuz it's a game, and game's aren't supposed to be fun.

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Jaidan
04.16.2012 , 04:00 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by FauzyB View Post
In the real world you might well be right, but this is a GAME, it's supposed to be fun. If people aren't having fun, why are they going to renew their subscriptions? Just to grind for months on end to get a single piece of equipment?
caving to the lowest common denominator is never a recipe for success.

as was said elsewhere... losing should not be rewarded. it only reinforces bad habits and encourages the mindset that things can be simplified and dumbed down for the benefit of the weakest links.

although, it would be satisfying to see these less skilled players wearing full BM gear and still losing.

but... what will they complain about once gear disparity is no longer an excuse? what will they demand to have changed? what will be changed to satisfy their ignorant and entitled whims?