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Sniper & Scoundrel or Gunslinger & Operative

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Sniper & Scoundrel or Gunslinger & Operative

Malles's Avatar

04.14.2012 , 05:10 PM | #11
I went Gunslinger and Operative. Incoming pros and cons.

Operative Pros: The animations and feel of the character is amazing. I have a female Chiss and can totally see her sneaking through the Balmorra landscape knifing rebels left and right. All kinds of good fun to be had there.

Operative Cons: Why use a knife against visible, aware, and heavily armed enemies when you have a perfectly good and, realistically speaking, more powerful assault rifle slung to your back? No sense, this makes.

Gunslinger Pros: Cowboy hat, dual pistols, and the class fits the Smuggler character so much better than the Scoundrel. Blaster whipping a Sith Lord works about as well as using a water balloon on a tank.

Gunslinger Cons: Have you ever tried to hit a long range target with a pistol? Not easy. And dual wielding pistols, though awesome looking, don't really have much use on a battlefield compared to other weapons.
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04.14.2012 , 06:24 PM | #12
I think you should also look at what you want to play like, there's obviously a bigger difference between two advanced classes, but within different trees you might still find something your prefer over another advanced class.
Atm I have a gunslinger, and I'm waiting to make some other characters so I'll have some added Legacy bonuses in place. I'm really liking the approach of adding a Wild West theme to a class that remains to be quite iconic for Star Wars. One thing I knew in advance was the spec I was going for, which is Dirty Fighting. As a 'gunslinger', I really wanted to live up to the name and be mobile, running around shooting whatever I can.
On the other hand, for a Sniper, sitting in cover and 'sniping' seems like an approach I would like as far as getting immersed into the game and my character. Marksmanship Sniper might be the way to go for me, chilling behind cover and getting big numbers.
Which unfortunately means I might play mirror classes with different trees. I do prefer Operative over Scoundrel, however, even if neither of those may not be my playstyle (which I can't say as I haven't tried it out). So I'd say check out some playstyles and see which one appeals most to you, regardless of advanced class.
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04.14.2012 , 09:47 PM | #13
psssh Gunslinger/Sniper all the way! Free stuff, bandwagon referral link, click if you want

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04.15.2012 , 06:24 AM | #14
These classes combined are probably my stereotype... lol. I'm in the Navy, was a cop before I joined, expert with pistol, sharpshooter with the M4 carbine, and I'm from Texas.

Gunslinger: People don't duel wield pistols except in movies. Even when guys did carry two guns in the old west it was just to save reloading time. They would use one gun then swich to the other. Sabatoge looks out of place and forced to mirror the Engineer.

Scoundrel: There is nothing stealth about a shotgun so I laugh at concealment, however the sawbones tree is as close to realistic for that class as your gonna get. Medics hide behind cover all the time. It is there job not to engage and stay alive to work on the wounded. Also when do shoot a pistol you use two hands for the tactical advantage.

Sniper: The modern assassin. Lazing targets and calling down airstrikes are real. The class just looks goofy since your max range looks like somthing you coud hit with a pistol in real life. If you enjoyed the movies Shooter and... Sniper this class is for you.

Operative: The spy. I would've like to see the operative get a pistol like James Bond is famous for but the carbine gives it a Navy Seal look. They had to copy and paste the WoW's rogue somewhere so your poison and dagger can be found under concealment.

Just from researching since I'm struggling to pick if i want to go Sniper and Scoundrel or Gunslinger and Operative I've noticed these things:

1. Realism like I just explained
2. Basic Star wars fantasy archetypes are Scoundrel=Solo Sniper=Imperial Officers/Thrawn
3. The best PVE options are Sniper and Gunslinger by far unless you want to heal.
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Achromatis's Avatar

04.15.2012 , 09:57 AM | #15
The big draw for me about a Sniper is the big guns, even if theyre not long range... However Ive got to go with Operative/Gunslinger because an Operative stealth gameplay fits the story far better, and the Smuggler never really does anything stealthy. Plus using tables as cover and shooting then ducking fits the Smuggler/Han Solo theme really well.

Edit: Ive always seen the Sniper as more of a field agent or army scout personally.

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04.15.2012 , 01:42 PM | #16
I personally went Scoundrel/Sniper, partly because I wanted a Republic main with access to something else than DPS, but mostly because I thought it made more sense that way. The Gunslinger to me feels more like a soldier/mercenary than a true smuggler, who I see more as a resourceful rogue who tries to scrape by using whatever feels convenient along the way. Some shooting, some punching, some patching up and some sneaking. The GS gameplay of hiding behind something, charging two blasters and making aimed shots, just feels ackward to me and I think it fits more someone with a rifle.

As for the silliness of using blaster whip on a Sith, well Fett did headbutt Obi-Wan in AotC. Though to be fair, the blaster whip is probably the only thing that annoys me with my scoundrel. As an ability that you end up using a lot, I think they should have come up with something better.

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04.15.2012 , 01:48 PM | #17
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04.15.2012 , 04:41 PM | #18
I was talking more of mechanics. I would perfer to go Sniper over Gunslinger but if Operative has something the Scoundrel doesn't I would switch.
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04.15.2012 , 07:21 PM | #19
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About Kaliyo, I think those combat lines refer to herself not the player

The first conversation goes something like:
Kaliyo "I've been meaning to ask you, where did you learn to shoot like you do?"
My response "It was part of my training at imperial intelligence"
Kaliyo says something about how one shot one kill, and asks how I do it.
My response "It's called aiming, you stop firing for a second, and actually look down the sights."
Kaliyo "I guess, but I like getting off more than one shot a minute"

Not word for word at all, as that conversation is like the 1st or 2nd companion quest...and my IA is now lvl 47 and Kaliyo's affection is at like 9000. But she is definitely not referring to herself as the one that does the "one shot, one kill".
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