Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

Dungeon finder RUINS games. Look at WOW, RIFT, etc... Once dungeon finder is introduced, people will, for example, que as a tank, get in group and say, Oh, sorry, can someone else tank?

Dungeon finders ruin the community of the game as well. Not to mention, if you invite someone to the group you have the chance of recognizing a lack of gar or someone recognizing them and KNOWING that they suck and will cause a wipe.

The next step after Dungeon Finders is cross-server this WILL ruin the game. WOW and RIFT are perfect examples. People will complain that it takes to long and then we have to deal with baddies across servers as well as our own.

Dungeon Finders will ruin this game as well.

(Dungeon finders are one of many reasons I quit WOW and RIFT)

Then..uh.. I dunno?...

Don't use the dungeon finder?

Of course. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be on a low population server. You basically can't play the game. That's how it is, simple as that.

I'll say it again.

As it is now, I'm wasting my spare time (and money) for having the privilege to do, and achieve absoluteley nothing ingame. I am effectively cut out from high end FP's.

I also don't think that Dungeon Finder's ruin a community. Is the PvP grouping tool ruining the community? No, it isn't.
It would actually make the game playable for a lot of people, considering the many FP's and Heroic quest's.

A single server grouping tool would be a very good compromise on which everyone could agree I think (why the *bleep* not), but as msdixi already stated, it will not help a low population server.

Nonetheless, we need a good (!) LFG tool, there's no reason there shouldn't be one.

I have a great idea, just make the OPS and FPS solo-able. Community is non-existent, and this game is quickly irritating me with some of the broken features. I am afraid they may have made it a little to much like WoW, (but with less features).

You didn't quit those games because of the Tool. You quit them because of the players.

The tool didn't do anythin other than give you easier access to the content. It was the players you encountered that made you upset.

So basically you don't want to play an MMO because of the other players.

I think a cross-server LFP type would be a very bad idea. At best it won't solve the "low population therefore no groups" problem for anything that isn't instanced or not readily puggable (meaning Ops above story-mode are out and no heroic content). At worst it will do the same thing to SWTOR that it has done to WoW and Rift. Sure they're very popular but they are now little more than solo games where you run content with people who could just as easily be AI-controlled NPCs than real people.

However, what will be will be and I rather cynically am expecting that it is simply a matter of time before one such tool gets added. At that point I may very well leave for some other game - only time will tell.

In the mean time may I suggest that everyone on every server do the following and spread the word to others to do likewise.

/cjoin LFG

It will create (if it doesn't already exist) a faction-specific and server-wide channel that can be used to find and form groups. Such a channel has gotten quite popular on the Empire side of Lord Adraas and has thus proven quite effective as an additional group building tool.

Of course if your server is low population and this won't help you have a few options.

1) Wait for the LFP tool and for it to eventually be cross-server... probably another 6 months, give or take.

2) Reroll on a higher population server.

I can't understand this mentality of "I will quit if they put in a LFD."

It doesn't change the game for you, so why leave? You can still run Flashpoints and Ops with your guild and enjoy yourself there. LFD doesn't take that away from you.

Honestly idc either way. If they add it great, hello my old wow style lvling, PVP every 4th or 5th lvl run a Fp, it they don't add it ok back to PVP all day.
Though my only issue with just one server que is this: I am the only under 17 character online at the time.
Republic side is dead on my server, they have all 4 or 5 alts and like 20 50s. So reps under 50 will never get grouped (numbers exaggerated ofc, but you get the point)

Problem is the slippery slope.

The same server LFG most people actually have absolutley no problem with.

But it is the Automated things that usually comes with it .
You know things like
Auto invites ,auto teleportation to all off the dungeons.

And then ofcourse X-server but that isnt really LFD

It isn't that its inclusion will cause me to quit... it is the changes that I have now twice seen happen in the games that it has been added to that will most likely drive me away.

Other than class quests... why bother ever leaving the Fleet? I mean I can queue for warzones and wait for them to pop, or flashpoints - no need to bother with doing anything else. Heroic quests? Meh, no point in even bothering - can't find them via a XS-LFD tool because they aren't instanced and by the time they're soloable I don't really need the commendations from them.

Entire worlds become abandoned - once you reach the minimum level for the flashpoints there's no reason to ever leave the central hub. It has the trainers, it has the GTN, it has the crew skills...

In both WoW and Rift I saw the inclusion of this tool turn the games into a lobby-style single-player game. I say that because in my long experience with these tools is that I get as much conversation from xserver players as I do from my companions when out questing...

Don't participate in xserver groups? Don't use the tool? It won't matter. It certainly didn't matter in WoW or Rift, what makes anyone think it'll matter here?

Want to meet future guildies by grouping with them? That goes away too. If I meet a group of cool people the odds are very good they won't be from my server (statistically speaking it would be rare for a xserver pugger to be from my server). Do I reroll? Do I hope for a free or paid transfer?

All of this is why I'll eventually leave - once the game stops functioning like an MMO I will play it as a single-player game and eventually that will wear out and I'll be off to find something new. SWTOR might hold me longer if only because it will take that long for me to finish all 8 class stories, but after that... why stay where there's no real interaction with the people I am playing with beyond "rdy" followed by a bunch of "y" responses assuming someone hasn't already pulled....