Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

you clearly never played wow

Actually M. Order, you have, by you I mean the pro fail tool group.

You are not so good at twisting words as you may think, but you are not too bad of a troll. I really don't believe there is any truth in you, so I have no reason to believe a word that you say.

So long as "you" (ie. your set) attack me, it is my right to respond

Mr. Ed says "No" to Wilbur.
Wilbur thinks it over, he agrees.

No XSLFG, straight from the horses mouth.

There are MMO´s with such a tool who are f2p. To think swtor will only survive with beeing a wow clone, is wrong.

Because this is the reason why the other MMO´s failed and went f2p. They were wow 2.0 and nobody wants wow 2.0.


That wow has 10 mio subs is right, but the reason for that is asia. People in europe and america are leaving the game more and more, asia is just covering this.


The most successfull wow is still tbc and vanilla, you can check this easily by google.


If SWTOR wants to stay alive then only if BW does manage to create a unique MMO which does the things that wow did wrong better and that starts at the DF and ends at Addon support and Arena. Those 3 things had an major impact on wow and ruined it.

Not saying all are bad, but the way how they are put in the game is where BW must shine. If they dont, people who like wow will go back there and those that did like SWTOR for not beeing wow, have been gone to GW2 or any other MMO.

As it is right now I'm waiting for hours in the fleet just tring to get a group for a flashpoint.

This can be easily solved by a LFG tool that works server-wide. Why not implement it when it has worked niceley in other games?

A MMO game that doesn't give the players the chance to group up and see the end-game content does not feel like a MMO game.

It has been posted often enough that it's absurd to point out yet again that the current LFG tool is able to be set to look for certain levels of players, and not just on Fleet/Station, but server wide.

Just because it is not a one button insta group is not an excuse. It is a tool that can be used and people actually do use it and have found great groups, read the posts. If you do not use it, or do not use it to the potential that it is capable of, well, whose fault is that?

Some point ahead in time they (BW) do plan on making a better LFG server wide tool. So until then rely on what is there. Also, many servers have created a LFG chat using /lfg to chat up groups, maybe even on your server.

Make Friends, have fun, go groups.

WoW lost 100,000 subs and were down to 10.3 million as of September 2011. They are continuing to fall, but they will hold at least the 1 million+ subs that are "Annual Pass" that locks the player subs in for 1 year. This of course included Diablo 3 and beta opt in for MoP. They still hold on to subs with Asia and recently added Brazil ($8 subs). According to the BBC 1 million players stopped paying in the last 3 months. Will be interesting to see what the next quarterly actually posts at.

I totally agree. When a new product comes out it needs to be up to date with current products on the market if it advertises itself as being in the same category.
New televisions would not be made that were not cable ready and advertised as 'new must have'.

The excuse that Wow took years to develop dungeon finder has nothing to do with a new game. If company X took years to learn to make a cable ready tv does that mean all companies in the future have to take that long as well?

So very true, instead they seem to have gone the same route as Bethesda with Skyrim. Rush it out the door with features missing, broken, or just plain ignored. I can understand not including things because they are low on the priorities (like a barber shop feature) but something like a dungeon finder is a necessity. I play at extremely sporadic times (military), and when I have time to do it, I can't be sitting around in general chat or asking in my guild hoping I can get in a group in less then an hour or three. Mind you, my guild has plenty of people, but they don't all have the same play time as myself. Just my two cents.

So, any new information on a better working LFG tool? Because quite frankly, I'm in the same position I was when I cancelled my sub.

I'm not willing to waste my precious time and on top of that pay for it.

With 1.3 I expect a robust, good working LFG tool, pretty much the same as the tool for PvP.

Again, wasting time on the fleet or planets is not time well spent (obviously), and it's an insult to expect players to be content with this kind of inaccessability, considering that there is already a perfectly functioning grouping tool for PvP.

In reply to Meluna:

You closed my thread regarding the servers population & a dungeon tool.

I find it to be great that you guys are currently adding a dungeon tool to SWTOR, but how will that save the low pop servers?

Agreed but nless it is cross server this tool will not help the low population servers.. or merge servers