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gwrtheyn
04.15.2012 , 06:33 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Heleus View Post
Why do you think people are leaving to begin with? hint* read the previous posts from other people, like entering a WZ that was in progress and ending before you can acquire the min 3 medals to get comms. This issue is all about people's time, if I waste 20 mins for a que get in and the team lost causing me to receive nothing, then I que again for 20 mins for a 20 min WZ to get 32 comms.

*played time ingame

so 1 hour*= 32 comms

24 hours*=768 comms

3days*= 2,304(overcap)
1 item warhero 2k rated coms -> 6k warzone coms-> 32 coms -> 187.5h played time ingame for 1 item ^^


(6k+ warzone coms per piece ~ 75 warzones(~15min) aka ~80 warzone com per -> ~18.7h per piece) so with avg 80 coms you get the item 10 times faster,you only need to win every one with fast que times

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Heleus
04.15.2012 , 06:37 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by gwrtheyn View Post
1 item warhero 2k rated coms -> 6k warzone coms-> 32 coms -> 187.5h played time ingame for 1 item ^^
/clap well put

to even be competitive it's going to take me months to get the gear I need to be pushing my weight around in a WZ

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cashogy
04.15.2012 , 06:44 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Heleus View Post
/clap well put

to even be competitive it's going to take me months to get the gear I need to be pushing my weight around in a WZ
you will be able to compete just fine. BM gear is easily obtainable, and it will be a long time before a large enough % of the population has WH gear to matter.

ive been going pretty hard at wzs since the update, and i have 1500 ranked comms right now. i might be able to hit 2k sometime tonight for my first piece (going for boots first cuz i want the armoring to customize my armor). most people might be getting a new WH piece per week, if that
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Alpha-Llama
04.15.2012 , 07:08 AM | #164
the system is a victim of its own design now.

You dont have to believe what people are posting on this forum because they are raging in game in general chat about the changes and they are raging in my guild comm's about it.

The simple fact is i can earn coming up for 170000 in 25 mins in PVE without a death loss doing my Belsavis dailies. In PVP i cant earn a quarter of that amount (winning or losing) in the same time scale. Theres no use mentioning death loss cost because when i go to Belsavis with my friend we die once intentionally to respawn. I think its a good idea for Bioware to look at the changes soon. 1 person in my guild has unsubbed already because in his words "i cant subsidise my game using PVP like PVE'ers can"
you see these crawler keys ? You'll never get these, they belong to the nine eight possee
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nevva
04.15.2012 , 07:44 AM | #165
I've been doing pvp all week trying to adjust to the changes as a healer.

I'm not part of a big guild so I do solo pvp and when you go up against a pre-made, your getting next to nothing or nothing because your team lost- this bites.

If the other side starts with 8 and you start with 5, this limits your ability to win - regardless of skill, and getting next to nothing or nothing - compounding the frustration.

In Huttball the other day, I was up against a pre-made Imp team once they saw I was the only healer, they parked 2 stealthed dps at the zone line, and every time I spawned and jumped down, they stayed on me the whole time. I could not get any heals off long enough to even get a 2.5 heal medal, Oh did I mention we were short 2 players on this round.

I've also been with some equally geared players and we fought hard for every square inch of ground and the reward was 30 WZ coms

Today's game - if your not winning in the first 1 minute - people start leaving - then if you get someone to replace them, those replacement people are getting shafted on at least trying for medals.

I do not see how a newly minted 50 is going to survive in recruit gear long enough to earn a medal when the pvp population is mostly BM gear. Our server has a lot of pre-made imp teams and as a solo PVP'r this now puts me at a disadvantage.

Getting nothing for at least trying and participation - why continue to participate? The 0-30 WZ commendations is getting old fast.

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DcyfR
04.15.2012 , 08:45 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by gwrtheyn View Post
1 item warhero 2k rated coms -> 6k warzone coms-> 32 coms -> 187.5h played time ingame for 1 item ^^


(6k+ warzone coms per piece ~ 75 warzones(~15min) aka ~80 warzone com per -> ~18.7h per piece) so with avg 80 coms you get the item 10 times faster,you only need to win every one with fast que times
or 6.5 hours once rated comes out and you dont need the 3 to 1 conversion.
LAW

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daiddu
04.15.2012 , 09:31 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Heleus View Post
I'm paying monthly for this game, if I want it to convey my needs to progress, get gear than BW needs to fix this broke system.

This is a business more than a game if they want SWTOR to be more successful than other MMOs they need to address these issues and outplay the other competition.
Your issue is thinking this is a business more than a game. Play the game...

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Heleus
04.15.2012 , 09:37 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by daiddu View Post
Your issue is thinking this is a business more than a game. Play the game...


Isn't this BW's business ? If I refuse to not pay them or worse other people drop their subs and guess what no more SWTOR..... this is a business

Money funds their paycheck, they are the people to make this game fair for all

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Alcolitoz
04.15.2012 , 04:23 PM | #169
Hi, the old reward system was ok, for a 15 min game W 100 L 70. You gained +40% comms and +15-20% valor for a win. Idk why people keep saying the rewards were the same.
It is a good day to play!

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SteveMo
04.15.2012 , 04:45 PM | #170
Game A
400k Damage
100k Healing
14 Medals
0 Deaths
12,00 Objective Points
Lose
42 Commendations and 1,500 Credits.

Thanks BW for rewarding me on all my hard work. Screen Shot when I get home.

Game B
112,00k Damage
23k Healing
8 Medals
4 Deaths
0 Objective Points
WIN
90 Commendations! 14k Credits

So based of this info all BW is telling me is that I need more friends :-(

Pre-Made or lose

Good thing about Premades is that it requires you to do less for more as long as you get the big "W" at the end.
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