All sports competitors are compensated for participation

This is a game dudes, no one is going to get world famous or earn enormous amounts of money for winning swtor pvp. Focus on what keeps people playing so you have someone to play against.

If you want to be a winner, go out in to the real world and win some...

i played a warzone today where we got beat so bad that everyone started leaving. i could only get two medals and stuck it out to the end and got absolutely nothing for it.

rarely get the opportunity to play with a premade because I’m one of the few people in my guild who PvPs 90% of the time. Moreover, I’m a dad again and I’ve got to be flexible at the end of matches to go take care of baby needs. That forces me to play with a PUG. I’m fine with that. What I’m extremely irritated with is last night I played several matches (sub 50) and got nothing or next to nothing because my teams lost due to being short on players or just weren’t very good.

One match I played the entire match, finished mid to upper mid pack in most stats, the team lost and I got a big fat goose egg for credits. I played another match same scenario but finished 2nd in DPS, but still lost. I got a whopping 340 credits. Really? What the heck is this supposed to promote? Is Bioware actively trying to discourage PvP? Pre 1.2 I’ve gone some nights in a PUG 50 and gone 0-19. That was frustrating enough, but I’ll be darned if I continue trying anything like that again with this new model. At least before 1.2 I had something to show for trying to win with my effort and participation.

So let me understand. By limiting the rewards for participation Bioware
-Has made people reconsider whether it’s worth it or not to even participate (I know I have)
-Made it where less people will be in queues since it’s no longer a viable way to make an earning outside of the very committed, or very organized.
-Made people who choose to PvP the majority of the time earn less than PvE, without any potential for gear drops. Oh you have lvl 20, 40, and then eventually 50 gear that you can buy with warzone tokens but outside of that you now don’t have credits to buy anything off of the GTN.
-Made premades a must to reward your time investment. If you’re a big boy like myself and may have to step away between matches for RL responsibilities good luck getting and staying in a PvP group.

Please spare me the, “But this discourages AFK’ers!” I’ve been playing since launch (I’ve played in I don’t know how many warzones) and have only seen an AFK’er once, who came back to apologize because one of his kids needed him.

I’ve never written one of these rants on this board since 2008 and up to this point I’ve enjoyed and supported this game. I’m exceedingly upset that the playstyle I’ve enjoyed the most has been hamstrung. If this isn’t reversed I’ll be just another person receiving promotional emails about “Coming Back To SWTOR”.

Signed,
One Freggan Mad Customer.

You know who to blame? Hint... It's not the maker of the game. All the people that quit got nothing, as it should be, because they left their team in the lurch.

In most sports or games you get a loss on your score, a little gained knowledge and hopefully do better the next time. I agree there should be some reward for effort. But the game maker set a minimum threshold and if you want comms, credits and such, do the minimum.

I remember people complaining endlessly about leeches sitting in war zones not doing anything, but getting rewarded. Yet how many people rode the ilum free valor train and thought it was perfectly acceptable to trade kills?

People want something for nothing. The only difference is how bold they are in demanding it on these forums.

I remember people complaining endlessly about leeches sitting in war zones not doing anything, but getting rewarded.