A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

Big deal. I kill more, and that gives my brain plenty of serotonin to play with.

Then, simply, you both failed. You both have knockbacks, you both have cc's. There is NO way 1 guy takes out 2 people in 8 seconds unless those 2 people are really really bad.

No, what's VASTLY more likely is the things you aren't telling us. Like, maybe one or both of you were already at low health. Maybe you didn't notice the sniper banging away at you. Maybe one of you stood in the fire, I don't know, but it is 100% not possible for 2 geared healers to get taken out by 1 guy in 8 seconds. COMPLETELY 100% NOT POSSIBLE.

I'll even grant maras/sents are op right now. But NOTHING is that op OR up. There is no combination where that can happen, PARTICULARLY when BOTH of the "victims" are healers.

Seriously, do you realize that you're saying that 1 guy not only chewed through 30k in 8 seconds (Almost 4k/sec) in just your health, but additionally ALL heals that TWO healers could throw in that time.

Not to mention, crikey, you could cc him for the entire 8 seconds you're talking about!

Look, maybe heals needs buffs, maybe sents/maras need nerfs, maybe both. But this level of hyperbole makes your entire argument void and nobody will pay attention other than to point out that you're grossly exaggerating.

Yep, exactly. I just checked my PVP ratios. Damage is way up...almost double the healing bonus for expertise.

Does Bioware really test this stuff out? Clearly DPS is the ONLY thing you need now. As it was, dps still ruled 90% of the time in matches. 2 good healers couldn't do much at all against a team with any semblence of team work.

/sigh. Give us multip spec soon at least. What really sucks is that most DPS can still heal....why not just take away their heals in PvP?

One of the major problems is that Bioware is trying to balance PvE and PvP with the exact same spells/damage/timers. It's not suprisingly broken. Just because a spell does one thing in PvE doesn't mean it should do the same damn thing in PvP. Everyone knows that.

Exactly. the buff to DPS is way more than it should be. As a Sage, I'm getting tore up by 14K HP's Marauders, and I'm at 16.3K geared up.....interrupt, stun....interrupt....splat. Honestly, against a well geared Maraunder/Sent who knew what they were doing, it was all I could do to live against them prior to 1.2. They have a lot of interrupt abilities, after all, and they seem to be on fairly short timers.

the main problem for sorcs are now that they have no real effektive heal for pvp compared to the high numbers of dps.

a innervate just give 700- 1,3k krits 4 times in 3 secsbut its channeled. so you have to stay.

a dark heal even with the hot buff, krit for 2,6k in 1,4k sec.

a dark infusion is uncastable, 2,2 secs, and the best is no crit 2,8k, crit 4,4k.

when we see now how rapid you can put out higher numbers in dps even as a bad player its clear whats wrong.

DPS = Heal is balanced.

Heal > DPS unbalanced

DPS > Heal unbalanced.

Yeah you bring also high numbers to the boards with 300k to 600k etc. but those numbers are ineffektive dark heals, innervate spams and aoe heal circle that cant do anything against the DPS that come in now.

Sorcs dont have any fast heal now that is strong enough, and thats the main problem.

Now you run out of force in a couple of seconds to try to heal against the burst and maybe you succeed OR your target dies before your 2,2sec DI heals him.

Bioware you deserve to loose us as customers, all of us. The forums are fine now for me, i love the hate now against you. Cause you deserved it after you didnt respond to any concerns and lied about new things that would give us some help-

edit: also before 1.2 we had big heal numbers but against decent burst we needed to put full efford in and sometimes we couldn't heal somebody against more then 2 targets. 2 Targets should be healed cause 1 dps 1 healer = 2v2.

The only use of a healer is now in 2v1.

Below are the reasons i have unsubbed and i would like to share with the community to find whether my experiences share voice in others concerns.
I have played a sorc healer and scoundrel healer since release.
I love the healing archtype. The impact you can have in pvp situations is quite simply satisfying.
Both are well geared in BM and i'd like to think im one of the more competent players pvping out there. I know my classes, i know other classes, and above all else being a healer i have great situational awareness. I'm not going to comment on the class balance changes as i believe they are irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Patch 1.2 has destroyed any shred of hope of me having fun healing in pvp. The reaction to death times are absolutely absurd when considering i pre empt a player taking focus damage cast a 2.3 second heal to find they are dead before the cast fires.
No this is not 6 of the 8 players in a warzone targeting a player, this has nothing to do with l2p this is 2 competent dps tearing through people.
I believe this is intended? By increasing the effects of expertise towards dealing damage and increasing the damage taken through cut values in expertise is quite simply mind boggling. Then step into a healers world where our heal values have been decreased through expertise. What does this mean for a healer?
You will take more damage and heal for less.
I regularly play in premades with guild mates, all of which are great players i have pvp'd with for over 5 years in mmos. All share the same view as myself.
Pre 1.2 fights would be fun, would last, and would take some scale of teamwork and co-ordination to pull off a win. Post 1.2 dps is king, where as before interupts and cc were crucial in bringing down a healer now nothing short pure dps is needed.
Do other healers out there share my concerns? Do other healers still enjoy healing in pvp?

I play a Jedi Sage full heal spec I have full battlemaster gear. I enjoyed the pre 1.2 healing role in pvp i felt it slightly favored dps as I would lose against an equal gear dps 90% of the time but he had to work for it. Now an equal gear dps kills me in under 10 seconds. I hope bioware fixes this soon.

they won't now its working as intended, the main problem is we dont have a ability to shorten our only real strong pvp heal

other classes have some abilitys to use such things, we dont havbe them anymore.

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