I am a MAJOR supporter...

You guys all know I am a major supporter of this game.

But what do you guys think it is that doesn't give swtor that "thing" that wow has. If you are one of those people. That "thing" that DAoC or EQ had. What do you think it could be? I have been trying to think about it for months upon months why some feel this way.

For alot...that special little "thing" isn't there. I can't put my finger on it, I really can't! I love this game A LOT and I have a spark and it's growing. Sometimes it goes down, but there is a draw. But to some there isn't just that....oomph and "HELL YEAH" feeling that is missing that people keep talking about. Really..this is driving me insane. What do you think it is? I'm trying to figure it out for some people..

While I also like the game, for me it's the lack of a truly open world. There's so little actual game area...it really feels like the corridor worlds of ME just opened up for more players. There just isn't any sense of exploration or depth to the world. IMO immersion really suffers because of this.

Actually, I don't know anything about you, other than you seem to think the whole forum knows you, they don't.

Elves? or is it that you can't put your finger on it because it's virtual, meaning it's fake, nonexistent in the physical realm which in a sense you can't touch it literally.

I am really liking this game...a lot. It wasn't until a few weeks ago that the game really took off for me. That's when I found the guild I'm in now and the people in that guild have made the game even more fun.

From launch, I was searching and searching for the perfect group to run with. Never found it until a few weeks ago. I enjoy this game much more now because of them.

EDIT: Hell, I even done a little PvP, and I don't PvP because I'm really, REALLY bad at it, and had a ton of fun even though I suck at it.

I would have to say its the loading screens for me,, I feel trapped lol..OLD SWG was the best... here i feel like im in a box waiting to be shipped some place else..lol...I mean soemtimes when i que up for pvp I'm already behind due to the loading screens and have too actually hit space back to get out of the cut scenes..
But like i was telling friend we cannot really explore any where really without being bound by a loading screen are boundaries..

Swg had large maps and very limited travel no speeders and no mount for a few months,, so you actually had too think about how get point a point b without dieing..lol.. that in its self was fun for me... finding areas virtually where no one had been there yet

creature village and the blue temple of Dat... and the night sister encampment on dathimor

the next few months will be interesting to see how the game goes,,

- Closed world. Very linear. Each level range has really only one "zone" to quest in. WoW and EQ were/are truly virtual WORLDS with seemingly infinate exploration opportunities. They also have multiple options for area's to quest in. For me, this is a very important aspect for any MMORPG.

- Little to no open world PvP. DAoC had RvR. Huge open area with multiple objectives to fight over. With benefits for the entire faction for owning the objectives.



The first game, with a proper budget, that combines the openness of WoW/EQ with the RvR of DAoC will be a gold mine capable of grabbing long term subscriptions from both the PvE and PvP crowd.

Warzones/scenarios/BG's are fun for a while but get boring fairly quickly for me. If I wanted to play against a set number of players in a small enclosed playground I'd still be playing FPS games like Quake and Halflife.


[edit] Despite the tone of my post, I do enjoy this game ..... to an extent. I am just disappointed in the industry for catering more to the I-want-it-now instant gratification crowd that tends to be the majority these days.

great post man. I agree 100%.

between all the loading screens, orbital stations, story instances, group phases, etc. I feel very limited in what I can do and where I can go. I miss having options that are outside of 1 dark side choice, 1 light side choice, 1 pointless choice on a wheel for me. feels very single player.

truthfully, i miss user created cities and RvR and truly OPEN world pvp. its not like pve is any better in this game though. the stories are extremely linear regardless of alignment choices and every boss except 1-2 is a tank and spank in my book.

on top of that, id really like it if race meant something in this game. everyone is a humanoid and have identical powers (or lack thereof i should say). i feel like a cyborg should be different than a human which should be different from a chiss etc.

with the tauntaun pets coming in now, its even more obvious that this game is wow in space. there is nothing in this game (except legacy) that wow doesnt have - and does better in fact. legacy just doesnt cut it for me though, as im not an RPer or have 7 alts.

there is just nothing holding my attention at the moment. i force myself to log on to see the new changes but only get frustrated at them. i dont see myself staying even with the free month. unfortunate really as i was really excited to have an MMO that isnt fantasy medieval times.

Don't know, can't speak for you but I'm honestly still having heaps of fun.

I do know that after a day of reading these forums I can start to feel a bit drained and bit down on the game, but then once I play it I'm happy again. I don't let other people tell me that a game is good or bad, I find out for myself. While it is clear this game is not for everyone, I do think it has that 'something', its just a matter of if that 'something' is the 'something' you are looking for.

And before anyone screams 'fanboi' or "get to 50" bla bla, I have multiple 50's, play several hours a day (I find that kinda sad lol but meh), do PvP and PvE content and I'm not 'over it'. I have tried to play several other games and always find my-self logging back into TOR because they don't excite me.

I will add though the fact that this is a si-fi MMO goes a LOOOOOONG way to my love of this game, I can excuse a lot based solely on that, I am sooooo over fantasy games. So as you should for every post or opinion, take it with a grain of salt ;p

no no no. don't get me wrong I am having LOOOAADSSS of fun.. I am just trying to find out what that "something" is people talk about. Maybe I worded my post wrong