The penalties for losing are TOO severe

Deserter debuff for normal WZs incoming...

Perhaps concentrating on the match might be a better idea? Threads can be written afterwards...

If bioware adds deserter buffs and keeps rewards as is you will just have even longer PVP queue times. Cause Most people will just stop queuing up. Not worth the Time and effort to get 40 or less comms per lose. Especially with the high cost of war hero gear & weapons

I 100% agree that the penalty for losing is way too high now. Not because I want a cookie for failing....because people are bailing as soon as things go south. A single score against us in Huttball and 4 players bail. And I'm left sitting there wondering why I haven't left yet. I guess I should in the future.

People leaving WZ was a problem before, now it's a nightmare. Thanks BW.

Actually i'm ok with getting less. In theory it means my team is more motivated to win. I guess I keep forgetting that mmo pvp in general is becoming more and more "on a silver platter" kind of gameplay. 40:100 ratio? Wow, so even losing thats 40% of what you would get for winning? Almost 50%? Yeah i'm ok with it, but then again I do more in these games then just the pvp warzones. How many games in rl or online give you stuff for LOSING?

Geez, its like you guys have never played an mmo where stuff changed. But i'm betting you have played other mmos that have given you more gind with less rewards before, so what makes this so different? I have played the new warzone, played the old ones with the changes (thank goodness an end to farming on voidstar, mostly) and yeah I like the changes.

If you are unhappy i'm sorry for you, but please examine exactly WHY you are unhappy. Saying that its unbalanced to be getting 40% of the rewards that you would have gotten if you won is kinda...spoiled honestly. Not saying that 1.2 was without flaws, but personally I think what we got was better then what we lost.

Just did a wz on my low lvl alt. 6 medals got 33 wz commendations.

PvP is now a complete patetic joke in this game.

TY devs for destroying the only joy i had left in this singel player pve game.

Altogether, it's a bad combination.

1) Games still start uneven or in progress; Abort removed.
2) Gear/expertise reworked; everyone at a lower level than they were previously.
3) No Rated WZs; Gear, etc, now costs 3x as much as originally intended, due to lack of Rated WZ comms.
4) Server populations still uneven; some servers experience a high # of losses due to #1.
5) Rewards lowered for losing side; rewards do not currently take into account new cost of consumables/gear.

This is why I don't think that the "penalties for losing are TOO severe". I think that 1-4 are the major culprits, causing people to feel the way that they do.

Granted, some people would complain just to complain about the changes, but if 1-4 were resolved (#2 will go away on its own, and #4 may never go away), I don't think too many people would feel this system is too unfair.

It's the starting off w/out a real shot at victory that's unfair.

Fix that part, and I think more people would be okay w/ losing and walking out w/ half the rewards of the winners.

Just try harder and maybe you'll get less commendations than that guy on the winning team that's just /dancing away at the node!

Or just don't put in any effort, start /dancing at your own node, and still get as many commendations than you would trying to win, maybe even more, and... oh... wait...

...of course, maybe people should get commendations for the -effort- they put into playing the game, with a bonus for winning, instead of handing out gold stars by the truckful to everyone on the winning team and a couple of scraps for the losing team, but, hell, people should only play warzones to win. If they're not winning, they should try winning instead.

Well 8 count now, so try harder.

Medals are pretty easy to get now too, six is like getting 2 pre-patch. I've been getting 10-16 pretty regularly.

I'm sorry you didn't get your gold star for effort.

I'm all out of cookies too. Not your day.