The penalties for losing are TOO severe

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The penalties for losing are TOO severe

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Y-n-T

04.13.2012 , 02:09 PM \| #341	Quote
Really if your a good player and you rock in pvp its easy for you to go in and win and your going to own people in good gear. its the people that aren't good and struggle to get better that its hard and will get discuridged so why not give them something for there efforts bottom line if a person goes in and continues to try but fails all the time there going to quit pvping theres just no point there are some that will never be good at pvp does that mean they should not be allowed to pvp or get oooo for tring. I totally agree that leachers get 0 and the winners get bigger rewards but even if you get no medals i don't think anyone should go in and get nothing again unless your leaching you have to try to do the best you can for your team

Ssfbistimg

04.13.2012 , 02:09 PM \| #342	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by UnlawfulCarnal You honestly want to be rewarded for failing!? How about we just cry until BW just gives us the endgame armour without having to do anything but walk into the operation and say boo to the bosses till they give up the shiney's. You are the 99%, don't want to work for rewards just get everything handed to you because you wanted to play. As a note, I am not an elitest nor am I in any way a PVP God, I am a mediocre player and I'm not crying about anything. Well anything other than there are way to many servers for the amount of sub's for the game. And you sir are the 99% that has to be given a Gear advantage over the opposition just cause you cant handle even competition. Personally I despise rolling through someone every time because my gear says I'm suppose to. So in actuality you are the group who doesn't want to work for any rewards and just want to be handed even more powerful gear to give u an even bigger advantage. Well I say F that. Im not the best PVP nor am I the worst, but I want to enjoy pvp and It's not enjoyable smashing the other team because my gear is better nor is it fun getting smashed because our gear is worst. Juyo Server Moonfrye 66 Valor Jenna'syyde 72 Valor

Spuck

04.13.2012 , 02:12 PM \| #343	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Magyarian First, good for you that you play your best and try to improve each time, truly. Second, 1 so-called baddie on a team did not make the difference pre-patch in most cases. We have all started with no gear and a poor understanding of how to play. Third, as long as you were not AFK or just sitting and watching, only the children playing would open their yaps. Everyone with a clue knows not everyone can be LEET. If you help, most see it. Last, not quitting, and having some incentive to not quit is the common thread here. Honestly, I would give someone like you my battle tokens just for your efforts because I would at least have people playing who would not quit a match. I can 2nd that. I'm not "leet". But I do my best in every match. I only leave when internet disconnects, game disconnects, or rl gets in the way. Many matches I would be willing to hand over all my winnings if other players would just stay and FIGHT... not leave and not stay and sit.
Prophecy of the Five LEADER OF DESERT ROGUES "Rubbing elbows with the enemy and playing nice doesn't sit right with me. We should be kicking the Empire's tail off the Promenade." - Corso Riggs

Y-n-T

04.13.2012 , 02:12 PM \| #344	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Magyarian First, good for you that you play your best and try to improve each time, truly. Second, 1 so-called baddie on a team did not make the difference pre-patch in most cases. We have all started with no gear and a poor understanding of how to play. Third, as long as you were not AFK or just sitting and watching, only the children playing would open their yaps. Everyone with a clue knows not everyone can be LEET. If you help, most see it. Last, not quitting, and having some incentive to not quit is the common thread here. Honestly, I would give someone like you my battle tokens just for your efforts because I would at least have people playing who would not quit a match. thank you respect right back at u

Fexhie

04.13.2012 , 02:13 PM \| #345	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by NobleRogue recruit gear is not that bad does not validate the argument that players stuck in bad groups should continue to be penalized for sticking it out along with not having any ability to upgrade their existing gear. case and point. I upgrade at every opportunity, I got my implants and earpiece the moment I hit BM. Got all the datacrons including the +10 to all stats. I always focus on the objective and contribute. Yesterday, I played 25 wz and got 1 win. Got at least 3 medals each one except for 4 that was already in progress. I think it was the first day I couldn't finish my daily for 3 wins. There is something wrong with that. That is a lot of losses man. And I understand what not being able to finish a daily is like. I come from a very very badly populated rep server. I would lose 40 or more of 50 matches a day and most of the ones I won would not count b/c of some bug. I still however don't think you should get the same or near same rewards as you do for winning. Sorry but there needs to be an incentive to win. I had some of the best pvp matches I have had in 2 months yesterday b/c people were actually trying. Give everyone same rewards again and you just take that away. Maybe they will add cross server pops so that the servers with bad imp players and bad rep players can actually have a chance to play against each other. And the good players have a chance to play against non premade ****** mofos.

VarrickCW

04.13.2012 , 02:14 PM \| #346	Quote
I agree it is way too severe. I went from loving pvp (I played and had fun, didnt matter if I lost, I still at least got some reward (just not as much)). Now.. I often get NOTHING.

Varicite

04.13.2012 , 02:21 PM \| #347	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Fexhie That is a lot of losses man. And I understand what not being able to finish a daily is like. I come from a very very badly populated rep server. I would lose 40 or more of 50 matches a day and most of the ones I won would not count b/c of some bug. I still however don't think you should get the same or near same rewards as you do for winning. Sorry but there needs to be an incentive to win. I had some of the best pvp matches I have had in 2 months yesterday b/c people were actually trying. Give everyone same rewards again and you just take that away. Maybe they will add cross server pops so that the servers with bad imp players and bad rep players can actually have a chance to play against each other. And the good players have a chance to play against non premade ****** mofos. I agree wholeheartedly w/ this sentiment. It's not that I don't think losers should get any reward, but it shouldn't be comparable to winning in any regard. If you play well and your team lost, and you walk away w/ half of what the winners got... that's perfectly fair, imo. Win next time. The matches starting unevenly is an entirely separate issue.
Quote: Originally Posted by JayPres Strap your digital dog to your digital roof and take your ideologies, lovely wife, and sweet little 8yr old girl to a PVE server where you fit best.

hopbounce

04.13.2012 , 02:24 PM \| #348	Quote
Agreed with Op. They are correct, and btw, all you crazy people saying we're the 99%...can you actually think of what you're saying? Being the 99% is hardly an insult...

Gowee

04.13.2012 , 02:24 PM \| #349	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Paitryn Some losses are currently reporting zero rewards. Ive also reported bugs on them not counted towards my armaments as well. I went into one full match and earned 0 honor, xp, valor, and credits. Im sure this is actually a bug and not meant to be. but currently this has been the case. I can confirm that. Have only had chance to play for a few hours. 5 rounds of Hutball. 2 of them my team lost. I was "lucky" to make 2 goals but we lost. And the "reward" was ZERO, no xp, no credits, no comms. I really hope that is a bug and not intended.
Once again the Sith will rule the world

SinnedQWERTY

04.13.2012 , 02:25 PM \| #350	Quote
Winning or losing --- I always played out the WZ. Well, I used to... I could always keep doing my part, giving my best and getting an (okish) reward. Even seen a few matches that got turned around as others also kept trying. It was worth it to keep trying... in the end I got a reward for the time spend and at least part of that was linked to my own performance. Also, these days I don't have as much time to play as I would like, so, my time in game is kinda precious (to me that is). shrug Guess what I'm going to start doing now Bioware... Sorry but I'm not gonna waste 10-20mins on this system that punishes people extra -- for bad match ups, even if they keep trying. So its time to start leaving matches... My time is better spend on other things in game (or out of). Hope you people are working really hard on more PVE stuff, because you just shot casual pvp in the head for me.

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