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Two sides to every story. Healing vs DPS.

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Two sides to every story. Healing vs DPS.

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Bannok
04.13.2012 , 12:56 PM | #71
Bring back precasting ******!
Bannok
Master of Night
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Maladon
04.13.2012 , 12:57 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by getdownsb View Post
I'm not even going to get started with how wrong you are, mainly because there isn't a single correct statement or logical assumption in your entire post.
You aren't going to because you can't, plain and simple

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Stilly
04.13.2012 , 12:57 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahhmyface View Post
I'm not concerned with bads being unable to faceroll their healing keybinds and survive indefinitely. All of the good healers are doing just fine, and all of the premades that know how to protect their healers are playing exactly like they were before. Now the solo-hero healer is a thing of the past, and I, for one, am glad.
Your snarky little attitude probably is less noticeable irl. I wouldn't worry about it.

I play with three gamers who have, for lack of a better word, dominated healing in mmo pvp for the last 10 years. They play games for a living. They are no longer healing in this particular game.

You also misread my tone in my posts. You, in your head, assume I mean I can't heal. I actually said I'm more useful in a pvp environment as a dps. Me and a sent can merc ANY healer in 10 seconds. You can't stop it. I constantly duel a healer with 19k health and he dies twice as fast as he used to.

I get the arguments. What I don't get is telling some of the best pvpers in the world they are bad. Going to have to do better than that, even with the snark.
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getdownsb
04.13.2012 , 12:59 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Stilly View Post
Your snarky little attitude probably is less noticeable irl. I wouldn't worry about it.

I play with three gamers who have, for lack of a better word, dominated healing in mmo pvp for the last 10 years. They play games for a living. They are no longer healing in this particular game.

You also misread my tone in my posts. You, in your head, assume I mean I can't heal. I actually said I'm more useful in a pvp environment as a dps. Me and a sent can merc ANY healer in 10 seconds. You can't stop it. I constantly duel a healer with 19k health and he dies twice as fast as he used to.

I get the arguments. What I don't get is telling some of the best pvpers in the world they are bad. Going to have to do better than that, even with the snark.
For being so dominating, for such an extended period of time, they sure do give up easily. Where there's smoke there's fire.
Rincon
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iiell
04.13.2012 , 01:03 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by kuvox View Post
do you mean like tracer missile, grav round, lightning, and telekinetic throw? 1111111111

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taq7p9hirju
rofl! Epic video!
"Monsters are real and ghosts are too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." - Stephen King

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getdownsb
04.13.2012 , 01:13 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Maladon View Post
You aren't going to because you can't, plain and simple
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...=1#post3929567

So what are you going to do now, tell me that "math is a myth that was started on some game forum years ago that has never been backed up with any sort of measurable data or statistics"? Or are you simply going to continue to crymoar?
Rincon
Helm of Graush

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Dartagon
04.13.2012 , 01:15 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Stilly View Post
Your snarky little attitude probably is less noticeable irl. I wouldn't worry about it.

I play with three gamers who have, for lack of a better word, dominated healing in mmo pvp for the last 10 years. They play games for a living. They are no longer healing in this particular game.

You also misread my tone in my posts. You, in your head, assume I mean I can't heal. I actually said I'm more useful in a pvp environment as a dps. Me and a sent can merc ANY healer in 10 seconds. You can't stop it. I constantly duel a healer with 19k health and he dies twice as fast as he used to.

I get the arguments. What I don't get is telling some of the best pvpers in the world they are bad. Going to have to do better than that, even with the snark.
I assume your friend got his gear pre 1.2 and didn't get the buff or whatever. I had the same problems yesterday. Today they weren't appearent. I suggest retesting when the servers come up to see if the same results occur. I doubt very much they will.
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MrSIlverSurfing
04.13.2012 , 01:18 PM | #78
The OP is right on the money. I'm a full BM healer that just respeced to DPS. Healing in this game is pointless now. I switched to DPS and my team is doing much better now in PVP. I much rather play as a healer, but its just not worth it any longer. I can still put up big numbers in healing, but it isn't meaningful since its a bunch of 1k AEs. People now are hitting up to 10k in 2 seconds. What really matters is keeping every one of my teamates up. It isn't possible now with the DPS being so much greater than my heals.

I'm enjoying my DPS build, but it's not going to last, so I started looking into GW2 and a few other games. If something is no longer fun to play then why play it.

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Spuck
04.13.2012 , 01:20 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by getdownsb View Post
One DPS does not "instantly blow up" a healer, they, as you said, force them to heal themselves. Eventually, unsupported, the DPS will usually win because the healer can no longer pop off a couple heals to 100%, use 2-3 globals to put out some damage and go back to healing, eventually whittling down the DPS. All this while never having to worry about managing their mana at all.
You had a long post. But there was one huge problem. What is this "mana" you speak of? I have not seen any class in this game with "mana".

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LancelotOC
04.13.2012 , 01:20 PM | #80
Man some of you sound like this is your first time pvping.

The reason healers get to survive vs a DPS and DPS need a second to kill one is because firstly Healing is reactive. A healer can't get the jump on healing by healing before anyone attacks them... they need someone to attack them to have something to heal.

If you and a healer have the same hitpoints after you attack them they now have less than you. This is where you balance from. The healer with the less starting hitpoints now has to have the ability to stay alive while you DPS them.

Second PVP is about the viceral fun of killing. Hello... we PVP to kill each other. How can you say you like to PVP and in the same sentance say you are ok with playing a healer that can't kill and then say that this same healer should be the one who needs someone to help him stay alive.

What are you guys smoking.. pass please.