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Two sides to every story. Healing vs DPS.

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Two sides to every story. Healing vs DPS.

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iiell
04.13.2012 , 12:35 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by SliggXx View Post
There is no incentive to play a healing class right now. So, I will break out my shadow and actually have fun not dying every minute.
Good. That's why you play a game. To have fun. If healing isn't fun, don't do it. Healers still help and like I said, I was in many PUG warzones yesterday where the healers were the reason we won. Also, the premade we ran into had great healers and they won because of them. The longer your DPS can stand there and DPS, the more likely you are to kill the enemies. Heals allow your DPS to keep DPSing, instead of running back from the respawn point. No matter what you say, healers are still important and I guarantee that a team with healers will win more than a team with no healers.
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Maladon
04.13.2012 , 12:37 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by getdownsb View Post
Your whole statement that if 2 DPS are focusing one target it is impossible to keep them alive is leading at best. It's completely untrue if the focused target is a tank, has guard on them, if the DPS get taunted, if the target has defensive cool-downs ect. ect. What you are really saying is that it is no longer viable to use none of the damage mitigating game mechanics and opt to simply faceroll healing hotkeys and mitigate the output of 2 DPS's on one, squishy target.
I really like the way you took his statement and made it your own..

Bottom like, 2v2...2 dps vs 1 healer and any other class...who wins? Assume all gear is equal, assume all skill is equal...GO

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Dartagon
04.13.2012 , 12:38 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Maladon View Post
I really like the way you took his statement and made it your own..

Bottom like, 2v2...2 dps vs 1 healer and any other class...who wins? Assume all gear is equal, assume all skill is equal...GO
DPS without even sweating it. 2 dps vs 2 dps, whoever gets the drop.

2 dps vs anything ..... 2 DPS

DPS is the only thing you need in a wz.

DPS DPS DPS.
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Khoraji
04.13.2012 , 12:40 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Maladon View Post
I really like the way you took his statement and made it your own..

Bottom like, 2v2...2 dps vs 1 healer and any other class...who wins? Assume all gear is equal, assume all skill is equal...GO
2dps vs healer and Assassin tank - healer/tank win easy.



healer and dps vs 2dps : healer and dps win

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Kawiki
04.13.2012 , 12:40 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Moosestick View Post
that would work if pure heals had no damage, just like pure damage has no heals. unfortunately, it dosent work this way.

Sage pure heals have no meaningful damage. The problem is if a Seer were to try and damage a melee you are essentialy dead in 3-5 GCDs.

If you try to heal yourself you are alive a bit longer against a baddie, essentially no longer against a good melee with thier multiple interupts.

You only hope is to run or hope your teamates peel. <--- That's what PvP has come to for Seers.

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Dinadan
04.13.2012 , 12:41 PM | #56
I keep seeing people point to the math behind the expertise where damage and mitigation cancel each other out. While that may be the case, the problem we're seeing is due to class imbalance. Classes simply aren't balanced right now, marauders (perhaps Juggs as well) are putting out more damage relative to other classes. So basically the FOTM is to roll as many marauders/juggs as possible, don't even bother bringing a healer.

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Ahhmyface
04.13.2012 , 12:42 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by SliggXx View Post
You have no idea what you are talking about. If nothing changes I guarantee that the top-rated WZ teams will look like this: Maurader, Maurader, Maurauder, Powertech, Powertech Juggernaut, Tankassin, Tankassin. Healers are dying twice as fast as they were prior to 1.2., there is absolutely no reason to bring them. Bringing dps classes with good cooldown abilities is the way to go.

Sorry, you are completely wrong.
I'm not concerned with bads being unable to faceroll their healing keybinds and survive indefinitely. All of the good healers are doing just fine, and all of the premades that know how to protect their healers are playing exactly like they were before. Now the solo-hero healer is a thing of the past, and I, for one, am glad.
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Dartagon
04.13.2012 , 12:42 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
2dps vs healer and Assassin tank - healer/tank win easy.



healer and dps vs 2dps : healer and dps win
CC DPS, focus healer, cc DPS focus healer, cc healer dead healer, 2 vs 1 dps

*** are you smoking?
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Kuvox
04.13.2012 , 12:42 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Maladon View Post
Seriously? DPS is an entry level archtype. There is nothing difficult about it. They are spam classes. If you find it difficult then you are playing the correct class, don't try to play anything more advanced until you get better at the game.
Do you mean like tracer missile, grav round, lightning, and telekinetic throw? 1111111111

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getdownsb
04.13.2012 , 12:42 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Maladon View Post
I really like the way you took his statement and made it your own..

Bottom like, 2v2...2 dps vs 1 healer and any other class...who wins? Assume all gear is equal, assume all skill is equal...GO
Is this game a 1v1 game? Is it 2v2? No. The question is, what is it? While with the current path of PvP I'd have to say that it is clearly an 8v8 game. The problem you're having is that you can't think beyond 2v2.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dartagon View Post
CC DPS, focus healer, cc DPS focus healer, cc healer dead healer, 2 vs 1 dps

*** are you smoking?
You're simply making assumptions and jumping on the "omg healing sucks" band-waggon. There are some DPS classes that are either going to have enough opening burst, or enough survivability (ie: 2 Concealment ops or 2 Ani marauders) that they're probably going to win most of the time. However if rotating through every possible 2xDPS comp vs DPS+Heals comp, DPS+Heals wins more often.
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