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Just killed Taral V HM with 3 Troopers and 1 Consular and got Smuggler Gloves...

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Just killed Taral V HM with 3 Troopers and 1 Consular and got Smuggler Gloves...

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ViperI
04.12.2012 , 09:28 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Mavery View Post
The problem may be how we read the sentence.

It reads "will now take group composition into account."

This does not immediately translate into "only drops for classes represented will occur."

In all likelihood they just decreased the chance of non-represented class loot from dropping, not eliminated it altogether.
If that is the case, it is deliberately misleading. People wanted a guarantee that the columi item drop would be usable by one of the classes present in the group. For Bioware to make a change and specifically note it in the patch notes and then not deliver on expectations is dishonest. If this is how they're going to conduct business, then they need to do away with the ambiguous language in the patch notes and state exactly what they're doing.

I don't personally think they're dishonest, I think they just screwed up and missed a bug in the system.
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cloudblade
04.12.2012 , 11:34 PM | #12
After doing 5 HM flashpoints today, 2 drops were for a class that was present, and the 3 other drops were for Jedi Knight, which we don't run with. So if the chances have been lowered, but not set to zero...even that doesn't appear to be true. It seems to me they didn't change ANYTHING with drop rates at all.

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JediXMan
04.12.2012 , 11:40 PM | #13
I was really annoyed by this. I was promised change, and got nothing. Exact same drop rate as before.

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cloudblade
04.13.2012 , 11:13 AM | #14
Yup, no change is ok. No change when change was promised is not ok.

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Jokingly
04.13.2012 , 11:27 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by ViperI View Post
If that is the case, it is deliberately misleading. People wanted a guarantee that the columi item drop would be usable by one of the classes present in the group. For Bioware to make a change and specifically note it in the patch notes and then not deliver on expectations is dishonest. If this is how they're going to conduct business, then they need to do away with the ambiguous language in the patch notes and state exactly what they're doing.

I don't personally think they're dishonest, I think they just screwed up and missed a bug in the system.
People want their **** to come out as cash, but it doesn't happen.

A 100% success rate is extremely boring in my book. I in no way wanted this change, but I'm at least glad there is still a chance at an off drop.

The expectations you had were your own and their derivations have nothing to do with BW. Calling this a dishonest business practice is a huge stretch.

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Deathnasty
04.13.2012 , 11:36 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Jokingly View Post
People want their **** to come out as cash, but it doesn't happen.

A 100% success rate is extremely boring in my book. I in no way wanted this change, but I'm at least glad there is still a chance at an off drop.

The expectations you had were your own and their derivations have nothing to do with BW. Calling this a dishonest business practice is a huge stretch.
the reason they were ment to change it is basicly we ran NM mode karaga since we first had an 8 man squad.

and the best thing we get every week is the 2xspeeder from kragga this is happening a lot

every week the same loot drops for a class we dont have, all our smuggler companions are full rekata geared where as most of the raid have 1 bit each if lucky however not a single main hand drop, however i have 3 smugglar rakata MH and 3 off hands in my bag

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DeeMoneyBig
04.13.2012 , 11:41 AM | #17
Don't forget that people also have companions to gear up. That may be calculated into the new drop logic.

If an all smuggler group loots a Jedi item, then you know it is broken as we don't have a companion that uses Willpower. Same thing for an all trooper group...

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xenofire
04.14.2012 , 07:33 AM | #18
Thats what you get for raid stacking.
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ADTRr
04.14.2012 , 08:58 AM | #19
This might be broken for flashpoints in ops the mechanic works fine

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Karkais
04.17.2012 , 03:42 PM | #20
In HM BT we had a group of 3 inquisitors and 1 warrior today. One drop was cunning, one drop was aim, and only the last one was the columni bracers token that was expected.
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