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Should have given 30 days to everyone subbed since release

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Should have given 30 days to everyone subbed since release

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Miyaka
04.13.2012 , 09:49 AM | #891
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimjax View Post
That is why this is blowing up in their face, someone somewhere does not know how to handle PR.
No, some people just can't stand the phrase, "You do not qualify", and the word "No".
If all level 50's got was a speeder...there would be the same amount of hand wringing and Henny Penny sky is falling bullflop.
No one can handle the fact that someone else has something, that they can't get too.

This is what happens when schools make a habit of giving out participation trophies and parents reward every sneeze and fart as something amazing.
Life isn't fair. People will have things and get things that you won't.
As my grandfather said, "Fair is something you go to in the summer. It ain't life, kiddo."
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Sethbacca
04.13.2012 , 09:49 AM | #892
Quote: Originally Posted by Zecola View Post
Some people have an empty pen, its been empty for 2 months, they were promised a refill but they havent gotten it and have been unable to fully enjoy their pen.
You have a half full pen, you have been using it and enjoying it all along and your refill will probably be there before you run out.

some people got reinbursed for their pen that at the moment doesnt work as intended.

you dont get reinbursed for you pen that has been working just fine.

stop reposting this topic every minute.
As it turns out there was a box of 8 pens and only 1 of those had been completely emptied with the promise of a future refill. The people complaining about the 1 empty pen however get placated by being given money to buy more pens instead of using the 7 other pens that they had available to them the entire time.

See how this works.

Long story short if you got the time awesome, go play while the rest of us subsidize your account. The rest of us who got the shaft and have likely paid as much or more than you for our accounts are going to sit here and whine as we see fit.
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Simbr
04.13.2012 , 09:49 AM | #893
I have a lvl 50 so qualify, but I admit I am surprised that they only gave it to lvl 50's.

SOE messed up SWG so often that a lot of free game time was given in its final years, but even they didnt specify on player level. Infact it was even given to unsubscribers to encourage disgruntled playes back into the game.

Bioware might want to consider that...

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Elear
04.13.2012 , 09:49 AM | #894
Hello. I'm random lvl 50.
How valuable to me is your level 47 Trooper? Not at all. Except one or two normal FP we could run together(if you were at fleet istead of questing somewhere), there is no reason for me to notice you. If you disappear, it won't matter to me at all. It also won't affect much others below 50, because they will just keep on leveling when bored and eventualy join lvl50 crowd. Anyway they'll keep subbed.
And how valueable to me is another random lvl 50? If he's same faction, we can do all FP/Ops, and play warzones even if he's not. If he disappears, I have one less person to play with. Now it's harder to find group, WZ queues are longer, game for other people at 50 got more boring. In long run, because this lvl 50 player stopped playing, others got bored and unsubbed(and this is chain reaction). Now game lost more than one player, and remaining lvl50 are getting even more bored.


There you go, why your five lvl30 alts are not considered 'valuable'.

EDIT
Of course there is no reason why you would be trated worse than those that don't have active subscription, so if you would be complaining about that, I would be with you.

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Magicmind
04.13.2012 , 09:50 AM | #895
have been playing faithfully since the beginning, I have been trying different characters...different servers....finding my comfy zone, so is it a bad thing that I havent made it to level 50 yet? IF you made it, you get free playtime, I've had my account just as long but because I like to take my time and enjoy the story I get skunked? should I be mad? Am I justified?

I'm not sure I know it doesnt feel very fair.

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wiredbadger
04.13.2012 , 09:50 AM | #896
Quote: Originally Posted by Larity View Post
Played since beta, full time student/worker.

get about maybe 16 hours a week to play, at most.

I have 3 level 50s a level 44, 5 level 30s, and a few new alts to mess with on another server.

If you don't have a 50, you are doing something wrong.
is playing the game legitimately, most of the 50's i see were rushed to that in a month? due exploits and other idiotic stuff that got ignored by cus rep . so basically, not only do the belligerent players get to dominate the game, mess with the economy make it so even bioware cant fix the damage, but now.. they reward them with free time? lol you know.. i just keep thinking to myself how we had a chance to make this not warcraft, i remember telling everyone that we had to discourage barrens abuse, establish a unique community. it didn't take long, we lost the game in the first week.
as an example of how messed up this is, i have a guild member that curses incessantly, if it was possible to have Le torrents' syndrome in a writing form he is a valid candidate. i naturally go to ticket, choose inappropriate behavior. wait really long, finally real time speak with cus rep. he says, you should have right click chose harassment. oh really?? where the hell does it say that?.. then it gets real fun. he says that the guild leaders can decide what kind of stuff can be said in the guild chat. so i blatantly said to him, you mean that gl's can decided whether or not the members can abide by elua?
with such idiocy for policy i began musing the concept of potential larceny and it's implications . considering that we are 'told' that things are begin done, we 'surrender' control of the game to them. they continue to take our money. nothing is done, seriously. like i said, i have proof. many screens of a guy obviously exploiting. i ended up joining his guild. i mean heck.. it was the only way i would not lose against him.
so, you all focus on the minor issue of free time, fine, but half the guys at 50 cant get to 50 unless they exploit or had vent which is a third party program not even under bioware's policy.
because i been playing since day one, i still haven't got a 50. i like most people , was doing that thing called exploration. the fastest way i seen them do it. exploit the wz and lvl like mad. you get money, reward , a company that appears to do nothing about it and now free time .
yet, if bioware can just get past the alternate to warcraft thing and remember that stwor wars is a generational presence, that yes, there are little kids playing along side 45 + year olds. perhaps they , unlike warcraft can show responsibility which creates a more dedicated patronage by far. remains to be seen.

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Ralidyn
04.13.2012 , 09:51 AM | #897
Quote: Originally Posted by Typeslice View Post
But seriously, all joking aside, are people really offended by not being named one of the most loyal customers by a video game company? If you're upset by the monetary aspect of it because you work 3 jobs to play swtor - i get it; but come on, are you really letting your feelings get hurt by BW?
I think it's about the 30 free days of game time for those who play a certain style (no or few alts) and/or play more than others. I would love to get free game time for being "loyal" because I have subscribed since day one and haven't not paid for a month (I also pre-ordered). THAT is something worth rewarding, not 30 free days if you have a max level character.

Edit: After seeing other posts... If you play more than 10 hours a week you play a lot. That's 25% the amount of time of a full time job.

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Cassidan
04.13.2012 , 09:51 AM | #898
Quote: Originally Posted by Miyaka View Post
No, some people just can't stand the phrase, "You do not qualify", and the word "No".
If all level 50's got was a speeder...there would be the same amount of hand wringing and Henny Penny sky is falling bullflop.
No one can handle the fact that someone else has something, that they can't get too.

This is what happens when schools make a habit of giving out participation trophies and parents reward every sneeze and fart as something amazing.
Life isn't fair. People will have things and get things that you won't.
As my grandfather said, "Fair is something you go to in the summer. It ain't life, kiddo."
Again you are not getting it. It is one thing to give lvl50's a speeder, it is another thing to give it to them and say they are the loyal customers. I am just as loyal as you but having a lvl50 is just meaningless in terms of money paid into the game. Get it?
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FrancoisTogruta
04.13.2012 , 09:51 AM | #899
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If all level 50's got was a speeder...there would be the same amount of hand wringing and Henny Penny sky is falling bullflop.
I woudn't care.

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inspiralblue
04.13.2012 , 09:52 AM | #900
Quote: Originally Posted by Airehn View Post
Screw you Bioware.....Screw you. My highest is a level 45 Combat Medic, out of my own choice to play the game I the way I wanted.

I finished nearly every planet, even though each mission only gave me +5 XP, and every kill only gave me crap loot and 50 credits. I made 3 or 4 characters on different servers, going through the many stories that the game had to offer, and now I'm finding out that if I spent more time on 1 single individual, that I would get a free month???

That's not the part that upset me the most. What really got me was when I found out that you are giving away free time to players THAT DON'T EVEN SUBSCRIBE ANYMORE. Seriously??? ***???

I've been on this damn forum for a year before the game was release, pre-ordered, was in Beta, paid my 6 months, and now I'm finding out that if I quit, you would not only let me play every weekend for free, but also for a whole week or maybe even a free MONTH???

Screw you! I gave you my money and you ignore me. I'm not blaming my 2 jobs, or my 3 kids, or my fill in the blank, I'm blaming your terrible decision you made to ignore players that have been with you BEFORE THIS GAME WAS RELEASED.

Done. Feel free to flame me.
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