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Operative PvP Nerfs LAWL

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Operative PvP Nerfs LAWL

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Psimos
04.13.2012 , 09:22 AM | #1
As one of the better concealment operatives around who has played for a long time, I am sad to say we got the nerf bat may be too much for me, I am already collecting my healing set.

The ability to 3 shot someone was too much, do not get me wrong, we needed the 7.5 second hidden strike c/d, what was really op not many people even know about.

Hidden strike was bugged before patch 1.2, if you would open with AB / Hidden strike and instantly vanish and hidden strike again your hidden strike would hit twice, that's right twice. So you would hit hidden strike a total of 3 times.

Let me break this down for you pigeons, in BiS gear I had over 800 power, and a 52% chance to crit on my Hidden Strike... 5200+5200+5200 (with acid blade ticks 500ish 5 times in between) into a lacerate you were dead, no questions.

With the BM gear (+ expertise changes) I did a 3200 hidden strike crit on a clothy and a 3k backstab. With my full rotation (including explosive probe) I had no chance killing someone that was NOT alone even with adrenal and relic.....

I switched out gear got my crit surge back and lost 400 expertise, I hit a 4k hidden and a 4k backstab, but regardless, I continue to sit there and continue to hit and interrupt and cc and maybe I'll get a kill, but then once again I am out of energy running away with stim boost on hoping to get enough to root someone and get around the corner.

I am not saying I cannot kill people, I can, if they are not expecting me.... However, the group fights (which most of this game is) I am just a sitting duck doing nothing more then wasting my healers time healing me because I am out of energy auto shotting, not killing anyone. I get white crit by a marauder ravage white damage 4.5k

We are completely useless now, there is no reason to even have us around. Put a marauder in our place, or even a rage jugg!

Here is a video of me playing pre 1.2 against the best tank assassin pvp on our server 1v1 for a 1v1 tournament championship, so you do not have to question my skill. I know what I am talking about.

http://www.twitch.tv/trusoljuh/b/311309853

Does anyone else have any input for me, maybe something that will calm my nerves and make me feel better, a tissue perhaps.

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Lightzzoutt
04.13.2012 , 09:25 AM | #2
I'm just posting so I can watch this later. lol
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Doxxs
04.13.2012 , 09:25 AM | #3
A stealth ambusher (ganker) is not a team dynamic archetype. It is designed for ganking.

If you can still do that you still have a working character.
I really enjoy being able to refer to individual players as "a Republic" or "an Empire" respectively

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goz_-
04.13.2012 , 09:30 AM | #4
I would like to know your stats first.

Mainly:
-bonusdmg
-crit
-critical multiplier
-expertise

Which setboni do you use and what is your spec also.

Your damage seems kinda low.
"You don't have a Joies"

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Fiveskin
04.13.2012 , 09:31 AM | #5
Stealth burst dps should remain hidden until the best time to strike. Now you've been forced into that position.

In a group, I would have you wait on the edges until a key player is about to go down but keeps getting heals from God. THEN you strike, turning the tide.

That said, I will echo your LAWL with a lawl of my own: LAWL. You guys deserved that nerf and I'm happily destroying all the ops on my server who used to 3shot me.

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Nostramas
04.13.2012 , 09:32 AM | #6
Concealment OP. As I said in the QQ thread that was 95 pages long, this will make NRG management easier, and wow did it.

For Burst dps it is the same, I never opened with a HS Vanish HS, cause I didn't need too to kill someone.

Now after the so called Nerf, I am killing just as easily, seriously. If you think you are hitting less, maybe it is cause they have more expertise now.

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ocping
04.13.2012 , 09:33 AM | #7
They need to give us an option to buy mods/enhancements with expertise AND 0 accuracy.

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Escarrabutxaques
04.13.2012 , 09:37 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ocping View Post
They need to give us an option to buy mods/enhancements with expertise AND 0 accuracy.
there is a way, although its kinda expensive.. enhacements with expertise/surge/power from wh gear (sniper rifle and some other pieces)

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Agusto
04.13.2012 , 09:38 AM | #9
I watched that video, you arent bis for one thing, and your spec is wrong, why would you not get the 2 second heal with the free TA attached? Dont tell me its for the 15 second cd reduction on debilitate. 7/31/3 was CLEARLY the best spec for an op pre 1.2.

If you don't understand that I can see why you are QQing about the nerfs. You dont understand the class. Post 1.2 I still destroy full BM healers and sorcs have no choice but to run from me STILL.

SO what im trying to say is, don't go spouting bull about ''skill'' and calling people who dont understand BiS ''pigeons'' when you clearly lack the knowledge of how your class works and was getting by because were were simply overpowered and everyone knew it.

We still have no reason to lose 1v1 vs any class.

www.twitch.tv/docc2k

Somewhere in my videos I am dueling two BM tank sins, and a full bm/rakata merc.
Destroying them every time. We were OP.

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Olympic
04.13.2012 , 09:40 AM | #10
Well now you can pick a PvP class and learn to play.