A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

I will just leave these two gems here of why I personally am not happy at all about my situation right now.

short info: I'm a heals specced scoundrel. almost full battlemaster set (I think the only things missing are hands and pants now)


we had a premade yesterday, 4 people, we got an insta-pop (bad sign? oh yes) ... we were thrown into a game of civil war that was at all 3 turrets capped by the other ops, and the points were around 600:270 (or something like that) ... guess what? we .stayed. and I ended up getting 2 medals. 2. our team stayed because we are no quitters. we got one turret and almost got a second turret (obviously way too late at that point so half the ops just went to stay at the turret we had) again.. I left with 2 medals. I got .nothing. for it. not a single thing. except the knowledge that my guild is not full of quitters.


then today, for the first time since starting this game (dec. 13th. heh), I quit a warzone.

it was a voidstar match. we were attacker. I'm healer.
I healed myself twice for roughly 5000k and didn't get a single medal for that (afaik that's a bug but annoying still) - then I got buttr* by 4 of them.
our ops was down to 3 people at that point (we only started with 4 and didn't get any extra people the whole match). the other ops were 8.
I went and started healing the other people in my ops (2) didn't get medals for that either.
I started 'dps' (I'm a healer) - obviously didn't get medals for that either because they buttr* me again. the last two 2 agreed to leave the ops and not requeue again. that was at about 4 minutes in. at that point there were only 6 lvl 50s on our side online.





oh yeah, of course, when I'm guarded and in a full team and winning (or an 'equal' match) medals RAIN on me, the highest I had so far was 11. granted that's not nearly as much as some others get, but I no longer get my medals just for healing, so that isn't so bad.

Completely agree with the OP post which on top is also wonderfully written. My compliments for that and thank you for the rare pleasure here on these forums.

Personally I have always argued the argument "dps should be able to kill a healer 1 vs 1". Yes, that in the rarest occasions (gear and/or severe skill difference) was possible pre 1.2 BUT a halfway decent dps could reduce the effectiveness of a healer to almost zero by keeping him too occupied to heal others more than the occasional heal. That in my eyes already is fair. Keep the healer busy while either your team takes out the enemy team or till eventually one of the others figures out "hey, helping that Marauder to chase and kill that marked thing might actually be cool" and finish the healer off without much effort shortly after.

Sure, dps might not be completely happy if they don't manage to kill things BUT unlike post 1.2 the healers at least had a chance to not only survive for a while but also be at least a tad bit effective between the respawns.

The last I would argue is that a team of dps should be able to take down a healer. Rendering a healer close to useless in 1 vs 1 is something I can accept too if the dps just is better/smarter than the healer BUT having the healer almost useless in many situations even despite he/she stands there peacefully and casts heal after heal with the constant betting against the time if the target might actually survive the 2.2 secs till the heal will land or if you have to keep spamming the inferior little and instant heals that drain your already low force within the next 10s is too much.

Give back the days when I at least could struggle against the being rendered useless by dps. Nothing is more depressing than peacefully casting heal after heal being left completely unharrassed just to realize that my healing power isn't even remotely close to being able to keep people up despite being in complete BM gear.

If you nerf healing and buff damage, you should also increase healthpools by a considerable amount. DPS will still win out in the end, but atleast healing will be able to delay the inevitable. Healing in 1.2 is a chore right now, there's no incentive to it anymore in my opinion.

Hell people can IGNORE the healer and simply burst down the dps...how on EARTH is that balanced/fun?

Sure all those dps who previously failed miserably at interrupting heals and couldnt get a kill unless carried are cheering wildly at the new FPS style PvP, but it wont last.

Ummm. Imps/Pubs have mirrored classes and equal opportunity to get gear? Just because you and the pubs on your server suck at pvp, doesnt mean it is like that everywhere.

This is a L2P issue, not a 1.2 broke healing issue.

Ok thats all fine and dandy but i have STOPPED healing.

BW doesnt want healers in pvp and they made it clear

i was not unstopable by any means and a good DPS could easily lock me down FFS you have 8490789237489289042342 inturupts

2 BM Sage healers vs 1 Cent geard Murader

OUTCOME= we both couldnt heal each other to stay alive he killed both within 8 seconds
(i have it frapsed if you do not beleive me)

do you really think they intented to "Make healing fair" when we cant save ANYONE??

i ran straight to the respec dude and joined the club where i can get 6k crits with healing gear it is awsome im just mowing thru dudes like nothing. it is cool how they have no healers now and i can sit back and AOE for 5k crits and clean up. Wonderful how OP my dps is and my healing is not comparible to med pacs. so i say all healers should say F*ck it and go DPS
You cant Fing Heal now so why bother 2.2 second cast time on your decent heals will give the opfor plenty of time to make coffee and inturupt you. Salvation nerfed 50% Cast times increased 50% and DPS buffed 500% yUP FAILED

BW made PvP a dps race do not hinder your team by becoming a tank or healer just go in and PEW PEW PEW FTW

Great Post.

I lived with the lack of movement as my commando/healer as a trade off to our survivability. Couldnt kill many people but I was able to survive, IF it meant healing up another teammate and I died.. fine. It was worth the sacrifice.

Now my heals really don't do anything. The heals are most affective on the periphery. Healing players who aren't the focus of the opposing DPS. If you're the getting targetted by DPS then you're pretty much dead now, unless I empty all of my energy and then.. you're still probably dead.

Would being in a pre-made make a difference, absolutely. But that's what was so nice about PVP before. You didnt 'have to be'. Healing now requires a focus'd attack. I'm not sure if it will work but in theory, if you're healers all act in together, you may keep someone alive. That's the only thing I can see happening now.

I'm still trying to feel my way through all of this.. it's quite a challenge.

I dislike having my playstyle changed SO drastically. Tweaks/nerfs here and there, I'm fine with but this.. so far, has been HUGE. I can understand why people are unsubbing, when the character you love the most has been so drastically changed? I'm not condoning it but I can understand why.

I dont mind not being in the spotlight anymore, it's nice. But we've not just been placed in the back seat, we've been placed in the trunk.

Nice thread that was started to explain the healing problem. I am a sage healer and it has really made pvp ridiculous for my character. Sages have low survivability to begin with and when you are heal specced, you don't do much damage. Take away heal power and your only chances are hoping no one attacks you and keeping your toes crossed the entire time. Maybe they won't notice you healing anyone...

You should've DPSed him. Remind you, it's not the marauders who got that bonus DPS, everyone got it. I am BM myself and I can bring poorly geared marauder to 10% health if I give it up on heals and accept that I am going to die (unless he has all his shields good, of course, but that's what kiting is for).

Healers are upset because when we go into a WZ we go in with the intent of wanting to heal others.

With all the changes that have occured we are spending so much time trying to keep ourselves alive that we have little time to worry about anyone else.

Healers need survivability. It's how we manage to heal other people... no survivability means no healz 4 u!

So yeah, healers are respeccing to DPS.

If u can't beat down a healer or the ppl he is healing pre 1.2 it's probably cause:
- nobody around you has a MS
- nobody around you including you knows how to kick/interupt a cast
- a good healer will fake cast and you will fell for it
- nobody around you including you knows how to chain controls (or stop DD on a flashbang).
- nobody around you knows to fake focus.

Remember it was the same in wow. Chaman/pal just COULD'NT be killed in duel. Even 2V1.
BE smart. Control/snare the healer while he is out of LOS from his DD/tank. Kick/interupt the hell of out him. CC again. Bring the DD out of LOS behind a pillar/obstacle. Keep the heal as far as possible from his target. If you can't, dot the healer and focus his DD. If you hurt him bad enough (in a, let's say, 2V2 format) the healer will have to full cast. As soon as the healer drops below 60%, change focus with relic+exp boost pack. If both of you do so its free win.

Skill is not only the way you spam you shortcuts like a *******. In pvp skill = motion and team play (assist).