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Should have given 30 days to everyone subbed since release

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Should have given 30 days to everyone subbed since release

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Darchaos
04.13.2012 , 07:19 AM | #581
The only ones that should have an "thank you" and a free month are the ones that have been here from Day 1! You know it, i know it and Bioware should know it and understand better.

Everything else is just fundamental wrong.

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Sirenn
04.13.2012 , 07:21 AM | #582
Quote: Originally Posted by Raximillian View Post
So you are saying that only people who "pushed" to 50 are "valued" and "loyal" customers? Everyone else, is not.

It does not matter how you slice it, it always comes down to that. They put up a bar, the bar is "valued" and "loyal" customer, and the bar was set to players with level 50. The ones who make it, pass, and get extra 30 days. They ones who do not, do not pass, and not not get the extra 30 days. That also implies that they do not pass and are not "valued" or "loyal" customers.

That's it. Pretty simple (yet terrible) wording and measurement decision from BW...
hmm well lets see how many times did you a n on 50 pay a few million credits or have entire raid weeks ruined to soa bugging out? how many times did you put end game or any game reports in to help them fix there top end content ? how many times did you suffer thru level 50 warzones being unbalanced ? you got a damn free pet and cause you didnt complete the task they are gifting for you get the half way marker. its like saying i completed some of t he quest but i looked around the area a little why dont i get the mission reward? stop beig stupid and enjoy what you are getting

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Mythic_MK_II
04.13.2012 , 07:21 AM | #583
I have a sister that play TOR and plays it casually, I on the other hand play it quite some, having 2 50's. It's unfair for her to not get it while almost having the game as long as I have :/

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Styxx
04.13.2012 , 07:21 AM | #584
Quote: Originally Posted by Raximillian View Post
No, it does... If you apply an arbitrary rule anywhere, then it will be taken as favoritism...

"Everyone in the company is a great worker, you all rock!!! so you get a bonus of $500!!! oh, but only people with a red car get the bonus. Bye!!"

It's favoritism any way you look at it. BW is showing arbitrary favoritism to lvl 50 characters. That is not good.
Favoritism, yes, I agree fully. But it does NOT make the non 50`s "less loyal", or "less valued".

Arbitrary rule? or arbitrary criteria? Hell ya! But it does NOT make the non 50`s "less loyal", or "less valued".

In my opinion, their metrics say that they have more accounts with a lvl 50 on them than accounts without, so they are trying not to alienate them, as being the bulk of the subs number.

The wording is as neutral as it gets and you are missing a valuable information: They don`t owe you anything and therefore they are not under any obligation to apologize.

They will do whatever it will keep their boat afloat. Today it was the 50`s following a too short exclusion of a feature in a patch. Tomorrow might very well be the level 20`s.

But not today.

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Wydow
04.13.2012 , 07:22 AM | #585
Celebrate Game Update 1.2: Legacy –
Get Your Very Own Tauntaun Pet!


We appreciate the support of our community throughout the development of the Legacy game update. As a 'Thank You' gift, we are giving all active subscribers (as of April 12, 2012, 12:00PM CDT, 5:00PM GMT) the following in-game Legacy reward: the Legacy Tauntaun Ram Pet*, sure to be your new best friend!

Swift and strong, and ready to stand firm at its master's side, the Tauntaun Ram pet will be delivered to you via in-game mail by April 24, 2012, 11:59PM CDT/ April 25, 2012, 4:59AM GMT.
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jinxedargonz
04.13.2012 , 07:22 AM | #586
Quote: Originally Posted by johnduane View Post
It is irritating to read over and over that every person who has a level 50 "space-barred through the content." Sorry but the game has been out long enough for each of you to have completed a level 50. I played mine - ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

So you like to simply stop playing a toon, and re-roll another? Great. It's your money. And it is also YOUR fault that you lose out on an offer to people who have level 50s and have been waiting forever for something to do.

Stop crying that everyone who has a level 50 is some speed freak who hasn't slept since before Christmas. I'm sorry, but this game simply isn't that hard. You've had 4 months.
What he said. I've almost my 2nd toon to 50 and have watched and completed every quest for them both, I spacebar through the dailies but that's down to having done them 50 million times. You could get a toon to 50 on this game in 2 months or less and still do everything and that includes collecting datacubes and reading all of the lore so people really need to stop claiming that we have no lives. Sad thing is, knowing Bioware, they will probably crack and give them something for free.

And would you like your level 50 character fully geared for both PVE and PVP too? How about a years free sub? How about some admin powers too?

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Dayln
04.13.2012 , 07:22 AM | #587
Quote: Originally Posted by Azzras View Post
BW says "Here guys, have a free month on us and a pet."

Players say "Screw you BW."

It proves that there is nothing BW could have ever done that would please some people.

I don't care if the game was launched and everyone was given their weight in gold, people would complain because it's to heavy.

(Just a note that I do think the free 30 days should include anyone that has had an active sub since launch as well as anyone with a level 50.)
That is so true, I happen to be in the camp of casual players that are alt crazy and none of my characters happen to be 50, so I am not getting the free 30 days, but I am not complaining.

$15 a month, for a game I get this enjoyment out of? LOL, they could charge me $25 a month or more and I would not complain. ( I pay more than that for taking my wife to the movies for 2 hours entertainment )
I have a bad feeling about this

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Azzras
04.13.2012 , 07:23 AM | #588
Quote: Originally Posted by Mythic_MK_II View Post
I have a sister that play TOR and plays it casually, I on the other hand play it quite some, having 2 50's. It's unfair for her to not get it while almost having the game as long as I have :/
My wife and I play.

I have a 50, she does not.

I am not going to cry about it. I was going to pay anyway.
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Agarwaenn
04.13.2012 , 07:25 AM | #589
To the people that do not have a level 50, have you, in the past 2 months, logged in and had NOTHING to do that INTERESTED YOU? I believe the answer is No. You have been leveling your toons, and enjoying yourselves (which is great). You have been logging in when you have free time, and GETTING YOUR MONEYS WORTH from your sub.

Now let's look at another group of people. (Now do not knock their play style because it is different from yours, they just like to enjoy the game differently than you)

These groups of people have a lvl 50. They enjoy being max level and doing endgame stuff like PvP, Operations, achievements, etc.. These people do NOT like leveling alts. They enjoy the game, but have ZERO interest in leveling another toon.

These people who are now Battlemaster/War Heros or have cleared all HM/Nightmare content have literally had NOTHING to do (that interests them) for the past month or 2. (Remember don't hate on their play style. It's not wrong, it's just different than yours) Some nights this group of people have had free time to play, but there was nothing in the game for them to do.

This last group of people are who the free month was aimed at. BW's piss poor PR department just messed up the wording of the press release. Of course BW does not equate their most loyal customers with just people who have level 50s. They like everyone's money equally, and want to continue to get your money. They just messed up in the way they tried to spin who the free month was really for.
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chillshock
04.13.2012 , 07:25 AM | #590
That would punish people who didn't get a copy at the store. Like on the countryside - where internet is too slow for a big download-edition.

So... while this being a really generous gesture, the unhappy users would have been far less with "a week for everyone".

Or something like:

a) 1. day subscriber
OR
b) a level 50
OR
c) a level total of at least 75

and a little something for those who didn't match this:
newcomers, hardly-ever-players... like... idunno... a bag full of "+rested bonus stims" or something like that...

*edit* But!

Thanks Guys for the month!