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The Real Reason for the Free 30 Days!

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The Real Reason for the Free 30 Days!

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MWidowmaker
04.13.2012 , 06:52 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by RepublicChicken View Post
What about the lack of a LFG-tool, lack of user interface customization, lack of clothes-customization like the color matcher and all that? What about the entire Legacy system? 1.2 didn't just add Warzones. I really wanted the Legacy-system. That's a major reason why I have eight char's instead of just one. But because I have eight char's, I haven't had the chance to level one up to 50 yet.

Not only that, but I know from experience that I get bored once I reach max level, so I really take my time to enjoy the game instead. But I guess that doesn't count?
big deal, i have 15 characters across 2 servers, 2 of them are 50s and others in the 20-30 range, made a new one yesterday, getting to 50 really isnt that difficult... your generalizations about people who do have 50s are wrong, and it looks like you are crying for the sake of crying while trying to paint some stupid stereotype about people who did complete the story on a character
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Meldwyn
04.13.2012 , 06:52 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by RepublicChicken View Post
What about the lack of a LFG-tool, lack of user interface customization, lack of clothes-customization like the color matcher and all that? What about the entire Legacy system? 1.2 didn't just add Warzones. I really wanted the Legacy-system. That's a major reason why I have eight char's instead of just one. But because I have eight char's, I haven't had the chance to level one up to 50 yet.

Not only that, but I know from experience that I get bored once I reach max level, so I really take my time to enjoy the game instead. But I guess that doesn't count?
The decision, and wording for that matter, weren't well thought out. But in trying to respond to the potential for customer defections from those that were waiting for Ranked WZs, they figured they better throw them a bone, QUICKLY. Unfortunately, they missed the mark by distinguishing based upon character level...
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Valkirus
04.13.2012 , 06:54 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by RepublicChicken View Post
Ranked warzones? So? I don't PvP at all, but what does that have to do with anything? If the warzones are the main reason, I fully expect to get 30 days free when we get a decent LFG-tool, so we can start doing Flashpoints. That's the same thing, right?

And seriously? You have a singe character and get a month free because you don't have anything to do? That's ridiculous. If you need more to do, start a new character, test new stories (it's a story-driven MMO, after all) and so on.
I agree with this. The lack of ranked PVP warzones has no bearing at all on me keeping my sub up. A lack of a good LFG tool for PVE content will however. And I can tell you...a same server one is not going to cut it on my server.
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Catalan
04.13.2012 , 06:55 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Engalius View Post
Dear Republic Chicken,

I was also looking forward to the legacy system. Then... I had a look at it. It's really a flop bare bones kind of deal. I can see that it can be expanded and that it can become very flexible but...

....


It's really really .. kinda... poo poo. I was hoping at the very least the combat log would be cool, but... they created it into some stone age thing where it can not be shown on the games UI. You have to literaly alt tab and open it from a .txt file.

It boggles the mind, its as if they had 2 different teams working on building a house from the roof down.
An adequate and reasonable description of 1.2 imo. Although if you use a decent text parser, the combat log becomes a very helpful tool.

Legacy is just a gimmick to make you play alts, so you don't realise the game gets worse at 50.

Don't get me wrong, I love playing 1-49, but let's call a spade a spade.
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Tikigit
04.13.2012 , 06:57 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Deadpooled View Post
thing is, how many players TOTAL do you really think cared about rwz's compared to how many cared about the lack of endgame PvE content, you'll probably find the rwz-carers are just a small percentage of 'kids' that care about 'i iz l33t awesome wtfbbqomgroflcopter!!!1!1111'
Careful, they may also be the ones the most vocal on the forums about how disgraced they've been by making the conscious choice to focus on level 50 already knowing there was no significant content there for them, but knowing that such content was their right as level 50 is what MMOs are really about, everything else is just grind to get your money.

As said in the stickied thread, to be honest we've all had to put up with equal amounts of crap and made personal choices that decided where in the mess we decided to settle in.

The level 50 bracket just suffers more often from pre-existing expectations from other game experiences where apparently a game doesn't start until you hit the level cap and because there is no game at that point in ToR atm people who applied the mentality to this game and followed it through are more likely to leave now and feel more entitled due to their own entirely optional choices they have made....

No one is forced to log into a level 50 and repeat dailys or idle in fleet for hours a day, there are options available to continue to play the game through other characters or even being proactive and creating community events/content to keep things alive.



At the end of the day though, we're all still putting up with the same quality crapola in places regardless to what level character we're playing, some have certain expectations from previous game experiences others are just winging it as they go along and trying to find their own little niche way of keeping interested.... but no group is really any more or less entitled or 'committed' on those grounds alone.

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RepublicChicken
04.13.2012 , 06:58 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by MWidowmaker View Post
big deal, i have 15 characters across 2 servers, 2 of them are 50s and others in the 20-30 range, made a new one yesterday, getting to 50 really isnt that difficult... your generalizations about people who do have 50s are wrong, and it looks like you are crying for the sake of crying while trying to paint some stupid stereotype about people who did complete the story on a character
So you got your free month, congrats to you, sir. But you forget we are paying to play this game. If they had released the 1.2 patch exclusivly with PvP-stuff like WZ, I wouldn't have said anything. But they kept bragging about a whole lot of stuff they should have included since launch, and a lot of stuff most of us really looked forwards to. Many people, me included, cancelled our subscription because we couldn't change the UI, couldn't dye our clothes (don't mean squat to you, but that doesn't mean no one else cares either), we can't find groups for flashpoints and heroics and so on. It's still far from perfect, but the 1.2 patch did help quite a bit with some of these things. I am sorry you didn't have a fun PvP experience from launch, but why should I have to pay for it? It's only $15 or so a month, yes, but it's the principle. This game has been advertised as a story-based MMO since pre-launch, so why should we have to pay extra to enjoy the story? Because that's what we are doing. If I wanted PvP and made it to lvl 50 now, I would be rewarded with $15. Even if I don't play PvP, I would still get my reward. But as I played since EA and really take my time with it, I have to pay extra? Since when does that make any sense?

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Rekkx
04.13.2012 , 06:59 AM | #37
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patience.. all good things come to those who wait..
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RTCBrad
04.13.2012 , 07:01 AM | #38
People are actually complaining about a free month now? God.

Stop over analysing things they gave you 30 days free that's it, who cares why it's irrelevant.
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RepublicChicken
04.13.2012 , 07:02 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Catalan View Post
Don't get me wrong, I love playing 1-49, but let's call a spade a spade.
My point exactly. I think the journey to level 50 is far, far more intersting than getting there, and I have no problems stopping alone the way. Heck, if I could, I would have at least slowed down the XP gain to half, just to stop outleveling planets and being able to do all the quests, heroics and flashpoints I want. But because of that, I have to pay $15 extra. That's what it comes down to. It has nothing to do with playing the game wrong, not focusing on PvP, focusing on PvP or anything. It comes down to forcing some players to pay extra to enjoy the game.

I cancelled for the second time a while ago (still have 20 days left, though), but I expect BioWare to give me a month free when they give us a decent LFG-tool. That's only fair, right? Right now we are reduced to a single-player MMO now simply because we can't find groups. you already have your free month, so you won't get the free month then. And why would you? You already have your PvP. You don't need flashpoints or heroics.

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Meldwyn
04.13.2012 , 07:03 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by RTCBrad View Post
People are actually complaining about a free month now? God.

Stop over analysing things they gave you 30 days free that's it, who cares why it's irrelevant.
I don't think you will hear anyone complain about "getting" the free month, they are complaining about NOT being included in the group that did. And the reason for the distinction is what's driving the division between the have's and the have not's.
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