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Legacy unlocks, really?


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ConradLionhart
04.13.2012 , 02:53 AM | #41
I feel they may have had a missed opportunity with ship upgrades for the legacy system.

They should have done more than just add small things on your ship like the ship droid, mailbox, neutral GTN.

They should add feature like a research lab to improve your Reverse Engineer's chances by 5%. And don't say "unlock". Use the word "construct". Construct your research lab for 2 million credits sounds better than "unlocking" it for 2 million credits.

Introduce a cutscene showing that the research lab is being constructed slowly.

Or even a manufacturing room to further speed up your crafting and improve your manufacturing critical. And once it is constructed, any companion that you send to craft something will work in the manufacturing room, interacting with the appliances on the working table.

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DalrisThane
04.13.2012 , 02:55 AM | #42
Deleted. No point. Everyone is TLDR these days. +See Sig.
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Farho
04.13.2012 , 02:55 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by olounda View Post
So, I read on the dev tracker that georg said that the legacy unlocks would be available for credits, for for reaching the level. If that is the case, they why do I still have to pay money that I dont have to get the repair droid on my ship?

Its upsetting to me that I have 2 level 50's, and a 3rd toon on its way, and you want an insane amount of credits for me to get something that I"ve already worked so hard for, and spent so much time into getting.

So again georg, why you want my monies so bad for something my legacy (time invested) should have unlocked?
you buy the ship upgrades once. not for each char.
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Fiachsidhe
04.13.2012 , 02:58 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Hauvarn View Post
We need a credit sink. Credits are easy to come by and theres not much to buy with them ay 50.
We have them. Operation repair bills, expensive speeders, crafting missions, social gear, etc.

You're right, we need cash sinks, but we don't need every gosh darn thing to be one, and they don't need to be this huge.

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olounda
04.13.2012 , 01:27 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Farho View Post
you buy the ship upgrades once. not for each char.
Read Harder. Devs said either credits OR legacy unlock. not both. according to their initial statement, i shoudn't have to spend a single credit to unlock something that i invested 4 months into the game for.

I agree that this is a huge credit sink, when there are others around there. Anyone who ever ran ops prior to 1.2 realizes that even only a few wipes in the run can cost you 50-100k. For a casual player who crafts, only comes on for a couple pvp warzones, and to do operations, 50-100k credits is A LOT just for a stinking repair bill. Now i know that they cut the repair bill in half with this other patch, but put another money sink elsewhere, not on a legacy that I spent 4 months playing your game to get.

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Xahrackus
04.13.2012 , 01:31 PM | #46
The internets sure didnt tell me the prices of legacy things 2 weeks before the patch. I sure didnt know that I should have the credits asked of me. I never looked at what was good at gredit farming, and I sure didnt spend....3 hours of game time making 10 million credits.

and its a good thing I never did any of these things, cause lord knows I would rather complain on the forums about how unprepared for a content patch I was ^^

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clintcasey
04.13.2012 , 01:35 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Catch_TwentyTwo View Post
I have to say that when I read it, there was a clear line that stated that you would EITHER need the required Legacy level OR the credits, NOT both.

This appears to have been a change since that interview. I see the logic of the credit sinks and agree they are needed, but there is disparity between what we were told and what we now have.
No, actually if you watched the guild summit videos, or read or watched the material that was out there prior to 1.2 coming out they very clearly said that they were intending to have some rewards that required both credits and legacy level to unlock.
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Esron
04.13.2012 , 01:36 PM | #48
honestly with 2 lvl 50 chars and alot of alts on the side atm, i dont really care about the credits thats going to be needed, my server has a low pop id rather they fixed that with a merge so i could start doing some ops and some fp´s, in the meantime, i just look at the legacy money sink as a way to keep me doing something in the game other than just doing the REALLY boring dailys or WZ´s over and over until i nearly blew my brains out just from getting so bored over the same rumble each day.

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NotDonnaReed
04.13.2012 , 02:07 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Fiachsidhe View Post
We have them. Operation repair bills, expensive speeders, crafting missions, social gear, etc.

You're right, we need cash sinks, but we don't need every gosh darn thing to be one, and they don't need to be this huge.
Yeah I agree with this guy. I run dailies several times a week, and I'm perpetually poor, thanks to repair bills and crafting missions. I ran dailies for 12 days straight so I could buy one of the "car" speeders before they got discontinued, and now I'm down to like 20k credits. There are PLENTY of credit sinks in this game. They don't need to shake us down for everything.

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Fiachsidhe
04.23.2012 , 11:04 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Rogoo View Post
Introduce yourself to the concept of a time sink. A crucial aspect of any MMO.
1. It's a cash sink, not a time sink.
2. You generally want either type of sink to be fun, or at least reasonable.
3. People already put the time into getting the Legacy level. There's your time sink.
4. Just because mmorpgs feature many time/cash sinks, doesn't mean EVERYTHING needs to be one.
5. Sinks can be more enjoyable than slapping a huge price tag on something. That's the laziest form of cash sink possible. Rather than coming up with interesting, or enjoyable things to blow money on, like pazaac or tauntaun races, arcades with mini-games that cost money, housing, cosmetic clothing that players can craft, etc.
Bioware, as usual, took the easy, joyless, minimal effort way out.