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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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The question of the month: Will you keep your subscription up? and why?

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ConradLionhart
04.13.2012 , 01:27 AM | #531
Quote: Originally Posted by HavenAE View Post
nuff said?

So because the game is only 4 months old we shouldn't expect it not to suck?

Hey I'm all for arguing that a new MMO needs a chance to grow, but when it does grow it actually needs to improve... not just stay the same.
You will be disappointed in the other new MMOs that are almost guaranteed not to have as much content at the start no matter how "innovative" they are, and won't have as smooth a launch as SW:TOR.

Whether this MMO is great or not is subjective. We play SW:TOR and we think it's awesome.

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SirMandokarla
04.13.2012 , 01:31 AM | #532
I think the best thing about Patch 1.2 is the ideas that have come up, those that have so many bugs they're hardly recognizable as the product we were promised. Call me an optimist, but that makes me happy. I feel like it means we have new, untested ideas. Something that hasn't been tried before that was destined to start out pretty rocky. However, this isn't your average, every-day game, nosirree. This is a subscription MMO. And as such, it's evolving as we speak. I literally can write a few e-mails to BW, grab some friends who agree with me, and I can shape the future of this game.

HELL YEAH I'm keeping my sub!

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AnimalMotherr
04.13.2012 , 01:34 AM | #533
Yes. This game is great and has plenty of potential.

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TOURDallas
04.13.2012 , 01:34 AM | #534
I haven't reached fifty yet, ofcause I'll keep my sub.
"It's better to have a lightsaber and not need it than to need a lightsaber and not have it."

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davidpop
04.13.2012 , 01:34 AM | #535
I dont know anymore, i love Star Wars and that is what keeps me here, just the game is so weak, everything is halfarsed.

The story was fun i guess, but i havent seen a new story for 4 months, so it might as well not be there.

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HavenAE
04.13.2012 , 01:35 AM | #536
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
You will be disappointed in the other new MMOs that are almost guaranteed not to have as much content at the start no matter how "innovative" they are, and won't have as smooth a launch as SW:TOR.

Whether this MMO is great or not is subjective. We play SW:TOR and we think it's awesome.
Dude I've been playing MMOs for the better part of 2 decades, I know what to expect when a new MMO comes out.. I'm fine with waiting a few months out like I have with SWTOR and the many other 30+ MMOs I've played over the years. The problem is when you have a bland game and try fixing it with more blandness, you still have a bland game.

Perhaps you all think it's awesome, but I assure you there are hordes of MMO fans beyond the safe confines of this forum that would have a word with you. Maybe it's your type of game, maybe you just how waaay low expectations. Truth is, this game and this developer promised greatness and they failed on delivery.
Have a complaint? Click this link before posting.

http://mrlizard.com/rants/why-havent...ixed-this-bug/

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tonysnod
04.13.2012 , 01:37 AM | #537
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
You may be disappointed. Battlefield Heroes is one example where the forum users only make up 2% of the entire gaming population and people who threatened to quit, didn't.

42 mins if you have the patience.

http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/paying-to-win
Wow! That's extraordinary! That's a drop in the "stay subbed" bucket if there ever was one. Forum posters: 2% of the total player population. I will gladly give up my free 30 days if I could see a similar pie chart for SWTOR, a fully paid game. In fact, I'll get down on my good knee and beg if that will do it.

If I may suggest to Bioware HR, hire the guy in the video, Ben Cousins. Smart, articulate, and thoroughly experienced handling angry MMO community backlash in stride. He certainly calmed me down. I enjoy understanding.

Honestly, I've been sifting the forums, posting randomly, and even created my own (now closed) thread trying to evaluate if I should keep my subscription or not. THAT is what I've been doing for, oh, seven hours now? (insomniac) I wish I had been playing, instead. I was perfectly happy before 1.2 (aside from the glitching/crashing 1.1). Call me a bad-weather poster, but the forecast calls for hale in Texas...

The free 30 days is a duct-tape-band-aide fix that I hope gets utilized in Austin. I'll stick around.

For now. But Bioware, I beg you, please please please read the threads on class nerfing. You've essentially killed my main in PvP.

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Ealaniel
04.13.2012 , 01:39 AM | #538
Not anymore. Bioware can keep their 'valued subscribers' and see how far it gets them.

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Captiosus
04.13.2012 , 01:40 AM | #539
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
...but the game has improved. Every week.
Every week?

We've been getting weekly patches?
Oh, wait, that's right, we haven't.

Populations have been on the rise every week since launch?
Oh, wait, that's right, populations have been on the decline since the first month.

We've been getting dynamic content every week?
Oh, wait, that's right, the game doesn't support dynamic content.

We've been getting weekly PVP challenges?
Oh, wai...

You get the picture. Saying the game is getting better "weekly" is a gross overstatement. The game has been in a holding pattern, more or less, for months. 1.2 was supposed to change that. It didn't. Legacy leaves more questions than answers and only appeals to a very small portion of the player base. Gear changes, especially in PVP, have people up in arms. The 11th hour removal of a key feature, ranked WZ, with an ETA of "Soon™" have PVP players angry. Broad sweeping swings of the nerf bat. End game isn't much better than it was. Social structures are still piss poor. And now bad PR over "loyalty".

I will say I admire your optimism but blind optimism is as unproductive as rampant pessimism. Look at TOR realistically and it's hard to dispute that the game is plotting hyperspace coordinates for the free-to-play system. If they didn't expect subscriptions to drop even further, they wouldn't be giving away free time. Giving away a full month of time to existing, paying, customers immediately following a content patch is unheard of.

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HavenAE
04.13.2012 , 01:43 AM | #540
Quote: Originally Posted by HavenAE View Post
Dude I've been playing MMOs for the better part of 2 decades, I know what to expect when a new MMO comes out.. I'm fine with waiting a few months out like I have with SWTOR and the many other 30+ MMOs I've played over the years. The problem is when you have a bland game and try fixing it with more blandness, you still have a bland game.

Perhaps you all think it's awesome, but I assure you there are hordes of MMO fans beyond the safe confines of this forum that would have a word with you. Maybe it's your type of game, maybe you just how waaay low expectations. Truth is, this game and this developer promised greatness and they failed on delivery.
and by the way...

Garbage content is still garbage, it doesn't matter how much of it there is.

And the launch was only smooth because they launched 150 servers which is a ridiculous amount and also why many of them are ghost towns now.
Have a complaint? Click this link before posting.

http://mrlizard.com/rants/why-havent...ixed-this-bug/