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1.2 = Fall of SWTOR


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Layenem
04.12.2012 , 09:47 PM | #1
So you buff up dps classes generally by about 15-30%... Awesome.

BUT you nerf all tank classes ability to maintain agro EXCEPT the Shadow... Fail.

You increase Scoundrel's ability to heal... Awesome.

You KILL the Commando and Sage healers for anything harder than normal mode flashpoints... Fail.

What exactly was the thought process in the nerfs? Sages have no way to regain lost force and you took away their only ability to do so (yes you can spec down to 13% health vs 15% to regain but the sage now has to spend more time OFF of the tank...)

The commando's ammo regen is dead. On top of that you killed their ability to remove debuffs effectively by removing the 2 second spec they could knock off of it.

I'm running full Rakata+ (Columi gear with augment slots) in a raid force and I'd call us pretty dagon functional. Yet we can't even kill LR-5 in HM Lost Island. I've got plenty of video that can show we are taking full advantage of the setup but this boss goes beyond nuts when <20-25% (I won't even get in to it). We are the third best raid force on our server (which isn't saying much do to population) but when the best raid forces can't even manage to get this LR-5 down there's a huge issue. Closest we got was just below 4k health left.

This is ridiculous. I just got the in game mail for a free 30 days... big whoop. I can't tell you how much I hate WoW but it's the only viable game to play now and it's BORING. But hey, at least you can kill stuff in that game. Oh and "story mode meant for the casual raid guild to see raid content..." is at best a bold faced lie and at worst either a showing of stupidity on the people who lead the development teams and their inability to ensure quality control OR you thought the PTS results where too "good" so you made it impossible. Last I checked you did flashpoint type zones to prepare for raids not the other way around...

It's disgusting. Oh and I won't even get in to the failed legacy... you know all that stuff you said we'd have that are now under the "soon to come" menu... PLUS the "you can buy these things with your legacy levels OR credits" but that's a fail because it's requirements PLUS credits...

Stupid.

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Thekze
04.12.2012 , 09:51 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Layenem View Post
So you buff up dps classes generally by about 15-30%... Awesome.
Credibility to this post stopped there.

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sankalp
04.12.2012 , 09:55 PM | #3
OMG I CANT KEEL 1 BOSS QQ OMW WORD END!!!!I R l33T group cant kill BOOS!!!!

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krissizcoming
04.12.2012 , 09:56 PM | #4
quit your moaning, the reason your tanks cant keep aggro is because they either suck or are undergeared.. 1.2 just came out today and swtor have screamers like you already... jeez... this is a way better patch than 1.1 but shoulda definitely shoulda came with the game... i have a scoundrel healer and honestly they were already good healers prepatch... most people just dont know how to play the class.. and the buff for dps in pvp is actually not that much difference with full bm gear. probably with full war hero it would show the difference.

one thing im curious about is the moaning im getting from commandos, im hearing there nerf was pretty bad.

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sankalp
04.12.2012 , 10:00 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by krissizcoming View Post
quit your moaning, the reason your tanks cant keep aggro is because they either suck or are undergeared.. 1.2 just came out today and swtor have screamers like you already... jeez... this is a way better patch than 1.1 but shoulda definitely shoulda came with the game... i have a scoundrel healer and honestly they were already good healers prepatch... most people just dont know how to play the class.. and the buff for dps in pvp is actually not that much difference with full bm gear. probably with full war hero it would show the difference.

one thing im curious about is the moaning im getting from commandos, im hearing there nerf was pretty bad.
imm imperial so ill use BH terms.


NO MOAR TRACER!! OMG *** WORLD END!!! QQ MOAR /UNSUB!!!!!

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Vrylokai
04.12.2012 , 10:09 PM | #6
Same old story, different MMO.

Player X can't do new content. Game is going to Fail.

Player X had his/her class adjusted. Game is going to Fail.

Player X did not get all features in game in a patch. Game is going to Fail.

Yet, oddly enough, virtually every single major MMO that was released, enjoyed many years of success. And if I was a betting man, SWTOR will be around for a while as well.

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thorizdin
04.12.2012 , 10:13 PM | #7
Just got done on HM run of EV and KP as a MT on my Jug and frankly HM is easier now than its ever been. Holding threat was easier and I think its because the bonus threat from Crushing Blow along with the DPS increase made it easier to hold threat.

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lendarya
04.12.2012 , 10:24 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by krissizcoming View Post

one thing im curious about is the moaning im getting from commandos, im hearing there nerf was pretty bad.
I personally am having a hard time but thats because im not used to its not throw everything you got to heal with 3 times and still have ammo to go anymore so ppl are having a hard time adjusting same with me its tought but its not game breaking and definatly doesnt need to have a rage quit thread about it

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Raencloud
04.12.2012 , 10:42 PM | #9
I would just like to inform you that a Sorcerer healer successfully healed the new hard mode flashpoint, with an assassin tank, and 2 merc dps. This was followed by a Juggernaut and Assassin duo tank with dual sorc healers clearing through the new operation on 8 man.

TLDR; You're bad.

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JediXMan
04.12.2012 , 11:47 PM | #10
Game hasn't even been out six months. Little early to start screaming "the sky is falling!" Besides, 1.2 looks okay so far. I'm just annoyed about the loot still being a mess.

Unless they strip all the RPG-like elements from it and turn it into a shooter, we have nothing to fear.

*looks at ME3*

...

Be afraid. Be very afraid.