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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2

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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2
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daiddu
04.12.2012 , 04:58 PM | #3151
Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
I love that people think that BW are doing us a favor.

We are paying customers, we have the right complain about a product that we are not happy with, we have the right to cancel our payments to a producer that (in our opinion) supply a sub-par product.

I will use the same example as I used earlier.

I subscribe to a cable company who gives me channel 1, 2 and 3 for €X per month.
After a few months, I am bored watching the same channels every day.
The cable provider then informs me that they will include channel 4 in my channel package, for the same price.

I think this is absolutely brilliant, and I think that channel four will be my favorite channel.

8 hours before the time when the cable company are supposed to give me channel four, they send out a message, saying that channel four might be included into my package in lets say a months time or so, they are not sure.

I will then of course cancel my subscription with said company as they no longer provide the service I am looking for, nor are they providing a service they indicated that they would when they were running commercials about their new channels they would give out to their paying customers.

I might return to the company in question if they include the channel that I am looking for, but I am not going to watch free re-runs just because it's free for a month.
feature wasnt ready in their opinion. They tried to comp you with a free 30 days for your inconvenience. Don't like it, then leave, simple as that. read about 10 pages of entitlement and nearly lost my appetite. All the "unsubbed" commenters should just cancel their forum accounts too and go...

have a great day.

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Sengie
04.12.2012 , 04:59 PM | #3152
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
So you think they arnt by putting not putting in a system they know is broken. so under your logic they would have been doing us a favour by putting in the broken system.

Well, they should not have announced it up to 8 hours prior to patch - that is false advertising and that is not doing us a favor.

If they would have gone out, lets say a week ago and said - "Damn, we are sorry - everything in 1.2 is ready but we have issues with RWZ and can not include this without delaying the whole thing" - I would have accepted that and said fair enough lads, as long as it is coming.

I am sure they knew before 11pm CET yesterday that they would not be able to include this, yet they waited til the very last minute to inform the players (the ones paying their salary) about this, even though they knew loads people were coming back to the game for this reason alone.

That pisses me off, and that shows that BW is nothing more than a greedy corporation who gladly sacrifice their player base to make a quick buck.
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Shingara
04.12.2012 , 05:03 PM | #3153
Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
Well, they should not have announced it up to 8 hours prior to patch - that is false advertising and that is not doing us a favor.

If they would have gone out, lets say a week ago and said - "Damn, we are sorry - everything in 1.2 is ready but we have issues with RWZ and can not include this without delaying the whole thing" - I would have accepted that and said fair enough lads, as long as it is coming.

I am sure they knew before 11pm CET yesterday that they would not be able to include this, yet they waited til the very last minute to inform the players (the ones paying their salary) about this, even though they knew loads people were coming back to the game for this reason alone.

That pisses me off, and that shows that BW is nothing more than a greedy corporation who gladly sacrifice their player base to make a quick buck.
Its only false advertisement if they knew it wasnt possible until 8 hours before launch, as it stands they have said it looked possible but when it got to 8 hours before launch they decided it wasnt going to work for 1.2 patch launch.

So in the end all the people that have unsubbed over this and uninstalled have done that because they cant have a broken system, also a system that by the sounds of it is nearly ironed out. that could drop at anytime and that would have been in pre season right now anyhows.

And im sure the only people who know the truth are bioware and they have spoken.
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Sengie
04.12.2012 , 05:04 PM | #3154
Quote: Originally Posted by daiddu View Post
feature wasnt ready in their opinion. They tried to comp you with a free 30 days for your inconvenience. Don't like it, then leave, simple as that. read about 10 pages of entitlement and nearly lost my appetite. All the "unsubbed" commenters should just cancel their forum accounts too and go...

have a great day.

Hey, if the content that I am waiting for comes within the 30 days of free play, grand. I will try it. But I don't want to grind WZ, I don't want another OPS, I couldn't care less about legacy.

For me the full 8 group PVP and ranked Warzones was the only thing keeping me in the game, they tricked people to resub, loads of people (me included) stayed in the game just for this, they announced 8 hours before patch that this will not be included and ~22 hours after seeing that the community got angry as hell, they throw in 30 days free playtime for a product that is not offering us what we want (e.g. the items in the patch that they omitted)

I don't care about the 30 days free game time in a game that do not give me the content that I want, however I am more than willing to pay for a product that I gives me what I want.
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Shingara
04.12.2012 , 05:07 PM | #3155
Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
Hey, if the content that I am waiting for comes within the 30 days of free play, grand. I will try it. But I don't want to grind WZ, I don't want another OPS, I couldn't care less about legacy.

For me the full 8 group PVP and ranked Warzones was the only thing keeping me in the game, they tricked people to resub, loads of people (me included) stayed in the game just for this, they announced 8 hours before patch that this will not be included and ~22 hours after seeing that the community got angry as hell, they throw in 30 days free playtime for a product that is not offering us what we want (e.g. the items in the patch that they omitted)

I don't care about the 30 days free game time in a game that do not give me the content that I want, however I am more than willing to pay for a product that I gives me what I want.

This is the term i dont understand that is being thrown about now, you dont want to grind pvp. If you liked pvp you would pvp for the pvp not just to attain the gear. and everyone is in the same spot as you gear wise so there is no advantage.

People who love pvp dont pvp for gear, they pvp to pvp.
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georgelue
04.12.2012 , 05:07 PM | #3156
It's amusing when BioWare is going to release something but then they remove it the last minute because they have last minute issues that they remembered from a while ago. I don't really mind since they gave me one month for free for level 50 players but this is a sign of SWTOR going a bit down

(I know I'll get flamed for this but that's what my opinion is)

I bet it is like this:

Worker A: Yo I think we have enough for 1.2

Worker B: Yeah... let's just let the glitches remain and fix them in 1.3. Players have enough for 1.2
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Sengie
04.12.2012 , 05:12 PM | #3157
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
This is the term i dont understand that is being thrown about now, you dont want to grind pvp. If you liked pvp you would pvp for the pvp not just to attain the gear. and everyone is in the same spot as you gear wise so there is no advantage.

People who love pvp dont pvp for gear, they pvp to pvp.
3 (now 4) warzones of pugging is not fun, I was looking forward to a full guild PVP group, all on mumble facing the challenge.
Yes, I wanted the gear that comes with it, I wanted to stomp rep's in warzones with the guild, I do not however feel that I have to pug ~900 warzones for gear.

Bioware have over and over c.rapped in the lap off the PVP community while expecting us to saying it is chocolate icecream.

I guess this time the community caught up and said: Hey this is c.rap even though they tried to hide the c.rap with some caramel sauce in the end (by giving us 30 days free play)
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Shingara
04.12.2012 , 05:18 PM | #3158
Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
3 (now 4) warzones of pugging is not fun, I was looking forward to a full guild PVP group, all on mumble facing the challenge.
Yes, I wanted the gear that comes with it, I wanted to stomp rep's in warzones with the guild, I do not however feel that I have to pug ~900 warzones for gear.

Bioware have over and over c.rapped in the lap off the PVP community while expecting us to saying it is chocolate icecream.

I guess this time the community caught up and said: Hey this is c.rap even though they tried to hide the c.rap with some caramel sauce in the end (by giving us 30 days free play)
So all this is over the fact that you can only group with 4 people and not 8. omg call the cops.
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First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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dsingh
04.12.2012 , 05:21 PM | #3159
Can I get $15 instead of free time? Thats one sloppy ******* in Baltimore, I would really appreciate it!
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Sengie
04.12.2012 , 05:24 PM | #3160
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
So all this is over the fact that you can only group with 4 people and not 8. omg call the cops.
Haha, I am guessing you are not a pvp'er.

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't care about OPS, I don't care about legacy etc.
I wanted PVP, and 1.2 up til this time yesterday was announced to be THE best thing happening to PVP in game so far.

They failed that, and yet they expected us to pay and subscribe to the game.

That they now come with hat in hand and say "In order to celebrate 1.2 we give you a months free gametime" (e.g. read: Of **** the community is not going to let this one slide, we better appease them somehow) doesn't mean crap.

I am not willing to pay for a product that is not offering me what I want and what they said they would provide.
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