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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2

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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2
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warkat
04.12.2012 , 12:22 PM | #3071
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost_Spectre View Post
Do you truly believe that "thousands" of people are going to simply quit and take their money elsewhere? If you do, you are deluding yourself. Besides, BW & EA have probably planned on losing a small percentage of people because of this change. However, with proper planning and strategy, they'll more than likely replace that percentage lost in short period of time.
Buhahah to thinking that this patch only lost a couple of thousand...This patch with no rateds just lost the entire PvP community...Look if u scan thru the realm forums you see pages of goodbye threads...Now when the Republic the side thats already dead Leaves that then causes the imperials to fight eachother all day long which is lame as hell fighting your own faction all day long.
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warkat
04.12.2012 , 12:25 PM | #3072
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost_Spectre View Post
What and have nothing but doe eyed anime characters running around? No freaking thank you.
Better than Space Samurai's and 1400 century Peasant Robes....Hell a Middle Schooler would put these lame designs to rest with a rough draft..
Rendz - 50 Jedi Sentinel
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Quisong
04.12.2012 , 12:28 PM | #3073
For PvP this patch as you might have realised is a disasterzone.

The Big Kaflooey: You are actually taking away 80 % of the fun out of pvp.

How? By nerfing the rewads for the loosing team. This is the biggest Issue and need to be rectified as soon as humanly possible. hopefully by Monday.

As I and my fellow guildies in Disavowed server Rougemoon agrees on. Take it back to the way it was and add small changes as follows.

Cap a door DING! Medal! Defuse a door DING! Medal Cap a Turret DING! Medal!. Score in huttball DING! Medal!.

The winning team gets a small bonus no more then 20 Warzone-commedations.


As a teamplayer me and others have created a good atmosphere in pvp solo ques at Rougemoon. if we loose we tought others the basics and we got our rewards for a loss and increased skill and gear regardless of win/loss in newcomers. The gap was closeing gearwise and a more 50/50 win loss ratio was becoming more frequent at certain hours of the day.

Now since the imperials outnumber us its all bunkered. they get their wins and leap forward in the gear gap we have worked hard to close. In addition they play many more games imp vs imp further increasing the gap.

It was worth playing prepatch cos we got rewards in cash and commedations based on teamplay not the actuall win. The win part is a bonus for that little extra joy.

Now its just a hazzle and most of us get angry cos there is no rewards to be had either way.

Our server where well on the way balancing out the diffrence in rep vs imp pvp losses vs wins decpite the diffrence in population republic vs imperial. This we achieved cos it was rewarding teaching other to play, and furthermore this has made it fun to play our faction as well as the imperial.

With these changes as i have mentioned you have ripped the fun out of it and we all feel cheated for investing our entire winter on this promising game.

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Caskont
04.12.2012 , 12:34 PM | #3074
unsubed!!!!!!!!!!
CASKONT

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earsrgood
04.12.2012 , 12:37 PM | #3075
I'm fine with waiting to implement ranked warzones.

But what is most frustrating is that as a PvP guild we still cannot do 8-man pre-mades. We would be more than willing to wait longer in a Q. This is slowly killing PvP in our guild.

Also your announcement made us believe we could still group 8mans and Q but I suppose we are not in "the first phase" whatever that means.

Seeing as you dropped this on us at the last minute surely we are entitled to a more structured delivery schedule? At the very least this would allay the mis-trust that my guildies currently have in your promises.

Ilum is now dead and we still can't do pre-mades......
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rakuenCallisto
04.12.2012 , 12:46 PM | #3076
I wonder how many hundreds of more pages can be accumulated before BW responds..
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Wildcat
04.12.2012 , 12:47 PM | #3077
Quote: Originally Posted by Delphis View Post
Yes, I do. And you can substantiate it easily just by reading all the posts in this thread of people who have unsubbed because of this.

1.2 was supposed to be the miracle patch but it has turned out to be another failure to deliver by Bioware.
Yep. I was already pissed off at the removal of open PVP on Ilum. I was ready to unsub based on what they did with 1.15 when they moved EVERYTHING (effectively) to the warzones, because I am sick and tired of depending on whatever random idiot I get sent in with rather than fighting AS A TEAM with my friends (which you could do on Ilum).

I was willing to accept the changes with 1.2 since that problem was to be fixed in the ranked warzones as we could come in with our own group, on teamspeak, and fight for objectives instead of dealing with, as I said, random idiots.

With that gone everything left in 1.2 is basically fluff to me.
Wildcat: 50 Sage, Wildkat: 50 Shadow, J'ackk: 45 Scoundrel, Thrashh: 39 Mercenary

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Wildcat
04.12.2012 , 12:49 PM | #3078
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
I wonder how many hundreds of more pages can be accumulated before BW responds..
They don't have the guts.

They'll just delete this thread before they will respond. You can't defend the indefensible so why try? Anything they say will just make people angrier at this point. The whole 1.2 patch should have been delayed UNTIL ranked warzones were ready for live.
Wildcat: 50 Sage, Wildkat: 50 Shadow, J'ackk: 45 Scoundrel, Thrashh: 39 Mercenary

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rakuenCallisto
04.12.2012 , 12:52 PM | #3079
Quote: Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
They don't have the guts.

They'll just delete this thread before they will respond. You can't defend the indefensible so why try? Anything they say will just make people angrier at this point. The whole 1.2 patch should have been delayed UNTIL ranked warzones were ready for live.
Couldn't agree more.

Why they didn't just wait a couple weeks to announce 1.2's release, and avoid this humongous mess, is just beyond me..
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Wildcat
04.12.2012 , 12:57 PM | #3080
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
Couldn't agree more.

Why they didn't just wait a couple weeks to announce 1.2's release, and avoid this humongous mess, is just beyond me..
Yep. Everyone would have accepted a delay as the price to pay for getting the whole thing. Bioware would have even deserved praise for it.

Instead they've done IRREPARABLE harm to their relationship with their PVP'ers that they may never be able to recover from. First deleting Ilum, then nerfing classes and Champion gear and now this final insult.

At this point they might as well CEASE development on ranked warzones and a "new" Ilum (if they are even working on them in the first place) because by the time they finish them (if ever) they won't have any PVP'ers left subscribing and they will just hack off their PVE players who will (rightly) be angry at them wasting time on stuff no one is left to use!
Wildcat: 50 Sage, Wildkat: 50 Shadow, J'ackk: 45 Scoundrel, Thrashh: 39 Mercenary