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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2

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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2
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Scerion
04.12.2012 , 11:43 AM | #3041
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
This is not what people are upset about.

They are upset that they baited and switched BIG TIME.

It's one thing to let us know that a feature in the patch won't make it, but it's another to way hours before it's release so you won't lose out on subs this month..
I don't think "bait and switch" means what you think it means. Maybe be you'd better stop using that phrase until you go look it up.

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Acks
04.12.2012 , 11:44 AM | #3042
sucks it was delayed but oh well I can wait
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Wildcat
04.12.2012 , 11:44 AM | #3043
Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
I don't think "bait and switch" means what you think it means. Maybe be you'd better stop using that phrase until you go look it up.
12 hours notice is bait and switch.

Especially after all the promotion of the feature, including produced video.
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sebastienrivas
04.12.2012 , 11:47 AM | #3044
Quote: Originally Posted by leerix View Post
This isn't that big of a deal...There are a TON of updates with 1.2 and I am sure they worked late into the evenings to attempt to make this work.

Obviously it is not up to their standard and would rather get flamed for pulling it back than putting out a crap product, which i agree with 100%

I swear that this community is worse than WoW. People just don't understand development... Nothing is auto-magic...

Fzzz, Fzzzz [Auto Magic] yeahh :P
Just kidding...

I agree that the community would be utterly pissed of from utterly pissed if it was released so early in the development. Be patient, get your gear up in the mean time and ENJOY being/playing with your friends.
That will provide more time for many and countless of you who really think they are number one, numéro un, número uno, 첫번째, numero uno, nummer et...[ you get the point], but are going to cry... my character or isn't ubber at all compared to
but I want to [win]; therefore... ubber me

Get a grip guys, stop whining or it would be worst for most of you just and right today!

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rakuenCallisto
04.12.2012 , 11:47 AM | #3045
Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
I don't think "bait and switch" means what you think it means. Maybe be you'd better stop using that phrase until you go look it up.
Actually I'm pretty sure I used it correctly, but thanks for responding!
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revolana
04.12.2012 , 11:49 AM | #3046
Quote: Originally Posted by JAgony View Post
No character copy tool on the PTS - WAHH Unsubbed
No Ranked Warzones - WAHH Unsubbed
No Arenas - WAHH Unsubbed
Not how it "should" be - WAHH Unsubbed

...you are aware that BioWare is working from scratch here... right?

Blizzard set a very high standard with WoW. They've had SEVEN YEARS to perfect their craft... and they still don't get it completely right half the time. It's understandable that people are crying over this patch - You came from a well-established MMO that has existed for 21 times the length of time that SWTOR has existed. You've been spoiled. That's ok.

Blizzard is not BioWare, BioWare is NOT Blizzard. I'm pretty sure that at no time did BioWare devs have access to WoW's source code, nor were they assisted directly by Blizzard devs at any point in the game's development or anytime thereafter. They're the competition, why would they? Everything they've done, they've done on their own, and I think they've done a decent job so far. Not a perfect job, because no one is perfect. There are aspects that can and should be fixed. But they've done a decent job overall. Everyone that's unsubbing - Why don't YOU make your own MMO? Developing and coding a project of this scale is a monumental task. I'd like to see what you can come up with... on your own.

By the way, I feel it fair to mention... all those that are looking forward to Guild Wars 2... the publisher, NCSoft, also made a little MMO called Aion, recently gone F2P. Let me know how GW2 works out for you, mmkay?

/rantmode = 0

Actually Aion is totally awesome now that its f2p and they put out the biggest patch of recent thats FREE. Ya know, that statement that BW made about 1.2 lol. Rift has put out multiple LARGE content patches as well. BW must have meant largest as in size of download. There is no way on this planet that UI controls, 1 war front, 1 op and maybe 1 raid = 12gigs. Its the WORST coding ive ever encountered in 15 yrs of gaming.

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GypsyMagik
04.12.2012 , 11:50 AM | #3047
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
This is not what people are upset about.

They are upset that they baited and switched BIG TIME.

It's one thing to let us know that a feature in the patch won't make it, but it's another to way hours before it's release so you won't lose out on subs this month..
We all know these companies employ psychologists I wouldn't be surprised if they made legacy the main feature to solve there server problems by having everyone re roll and thus playing longer. Either way you are right and the bait and switch tactic will hurt them, those of us that have put in considerable time into our chars are tired of waiting. The new options available to us have become far more appealing than they ever were.

The customer is always right you just don't always have to listen to them.. at your own peril

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Delphis
04.12.2012 , 11:50 AM | #3048
Quote: Originally Posted by Scerion View Post
I don't think "bait and switch" means what you think it means. Maybe be you'd better stop using that phrase until you go look it up.
Business and Marketing are not your strong points, I see.

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irdc
04.12.2012 , 11:50 AM | #3049
Quote: Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
12 hours notice is bait and switch.

Especially after all the promotion of the feature, including produced video.
It doesn't matter. The TOS clearly states that EA has a right to change "content" whenever it wants to. Rated warzones are content.

Legally, you have no recourse. Try voting with your dollar if you are upset.
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Ghost_Spectre
04.12.2012 , 11:52 AM | #3050
Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
That's all good, but why should we keep paying when the things we looked forward to in this patch are not implemented. I don't care about legacy, I don't care about the new ops.
Then my question to you is why did you even subscribe in the first place? There is more to this game than just PvP.

Heck yes, continue playing, if what you say is you love playing even if it is PvP, why quit? All you are doing is cutting off your nose to spite your face. What is wrong with leveling another character until such time that they do launch the Ranked War Zones? Played a Shadow yet? Bounty Hunter? Imperial Agent? Jedi Knight?

In addition, to answer your question about complaining, sure as paying you have every right to voice your displeasure. However, from what I have read throughout this thread goes beyond complaining. It is full of vitriol and personal attacks that are completing unnecessary, unwarranted, and undeserved. Paying for something does not give anyone the right to make personal attacks of any kind against those who offer a service that someone freely chooses to pay for.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sengie View Post
Edit: And yes, I have unsubbed, 5 days left on the account.
Well, you want to take the reactionist stance, be my guest. It is your loss, not mine and nor is it BW or EA. You and the rest quitting are only hurting yourselves. What will really suck for you is if you return and all that you have is lost, deleted because you quit. Not sure if they will do it for SW, maybe not. I know they do not for CoH/CoV. Either way, it is a crap shoot.

I caution you and the others to rethink your reactions with cooler heads. If then, you decide to leave, you do so after making a logical well-thought out decision. Not one fueled by emotion as you and the rest are doing now.
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