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there no point staying in a losing WZ anymore.

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:22 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeebie View Post
ah just saw your reply. ok lets take street fighter, when you lost you started again with full health, now how about every time you put a quarter in, you started with 3%percent less health?, how many time of losing do you think it would take, before you said stuff it I will go do something better.
That's not what's happening at all though. You still start every single match at the exact same level you were before, or higher. Your stats aren't changing. You are not getting worse.

Your opponent may have won this match, but you may not even SEE that same guy in the next match. It may be an entirely different team, your team may be better, it may be a WZ you're better at, etc. There are several factors you aren't taking into account in your slippery slope argument.

It's not as linear as people are trying to make it sound here. Just because you lost a match does NOT mean you will automatically lose every match thereafter until the end of time.
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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:22 AM | #42
Okay, I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding or in denial after reading all this. Just so I'm clear, if you play through a full match of warzone (let's pretend it's a really close match of CW), regardless of your stats/medals, you get 0 (ZERO) commendations unless you win? Is this what I'm reading?

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:24 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
You're taking this a bit out of context.

When I was young, we used to play video games like Street Fighter and such for fun. When you lost, you got to put in more quarters, and have other people rub your face in it.

Also, you act as though the winners will always win simply because they won once. That's not the way it works. It's not a perpetual system of the winners continually winning, because WZs require strategy, teamwork, and the team makeups are random for the most part.

It sucks that they removed the incentives (and even moreso that games STILL start w/ uneven numbers, causing an almost auto-loss), but let's not pretend that you HAVE to give the losers in a video game something. That's just this generation's penchant for self-entitlement.

PS) Just for the record, I've seen tons of games turned around from 6v8 into wins. Most especially in Huttball. People tend to give up extremely easily in this game.
The problem is... you have to. It is a must to give the losing team something, anything for their participation, because you are investing time and money, valuable moments of your life in this game you theoretically enjoy. If you are getting nothing in return there is no point...

And essentially on smaller population servers the winners do perpetually win, because it's nearly always exactly the same teams... except they will keep getting better gear and you will stay static... broken system is broken... you just can't deny it man.
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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:25 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by stendarrs View Post
Okay, I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding or in denial after reading all this. Just so I'm clear, if you play through a full match of warzone (let's pretend it's a really close match of CW), regardless of your stats/medals, you get 0 (ZERO) commendations unless you win? Is this what I'm reading?
Yes, even if you stay and get *8* MEDALS, you get absolutely no rewards - no comms, no credits, no valor.

The patch notes clearly state that the SCORE MATTERS. If you lose 6-0, even with *8* MEDALS you get NOTHING.

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:25 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by stendarrs View Post
Okay, I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding or in denial after reading all this. Just so I'm clear, if you play through a full match of warzone (let's pretend it's a really close match of CW), regardless of your stats/medals, you get 0 (ZERO) commendations unless you win? Is this what I'm reading?
you get 40 comm, if you got to 8 medals. and winner get 100

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:25 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by stendarrs View Post
Okay, I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding or in denial after reading all this. Just so I'm clear, if you play through a full match of warzone (let's pretend it's a really close match of CW), regardless of your stats/medals, you get 0 (ZERO) commendations unless you win? Is this what I'm reading?
More or less... in all the games I've played now I've gotten nothing at all...
Iboga - Scoundrel - Soresu (Retired)

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:26 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeebie View Post
you get 40 comm, if you got to 8 medals. and winner get 100
This is FALSE.

You get 0 COMMS if you lose 6-0.

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:27 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaodon View Post
Yes, even if you stay and get *8* MEDALS, you get absolutely no rewards - no comms, no credits, no valor.

The patch notes clearly state that the SCORE MATTERS. If you lose 6-0, even with *8* MEDALS you get NOTHING.
Can some forgive my ignorance of other MMO's and tell me if this is the standard or if EAware has decided to try something new here?

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:27 AM | #49
Well, all those WoW generation war zone/arena warriors love this type of system, isn't it great!

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Old 04.12.2012 , 10:28 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by SlimsPicken View Post
exactly.
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Its a poorly thought out system if losing does not give at least 75% of what winning does... it only serves to create a gap between factions and ruin competitive pvp.
EXACTLY

And sadly, it reflects the same "thought" they have applied to almost EVERY PVP move they have made in this game.
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