No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

We've already told you, we are not against Server Merges, Bioware is and we've told you why. You are the one who keeps ignoring us and refusing to listen. Pot kettle black.

Not quoting all that nonsense be esproc. Esproc is now in the flat out dishonest phase. No one is refusing Mergers. Some of us think it's a temporary bandaid solution at best, but I for one would welcome them if they come (even if it means some of my toons having to switch names.

I'll even concede, as I have before as well as others, that the Same Server LFG will be better than what we currently have if for no other reason we can do our dailies while queued in that. I still believe, however, that on low pop servers, it will not significantly increase the number of groups we get.

As for us being selfish, that's the biggest outright lie in your post. If someone doesn't want to use the xserver lfg tool if and when it comes out, they can still do all the content by spamming general or otherwise forming their own groups. Nothing about the xserver lfg tool would deny them ANY content. And you know that!

Not sure why I'm trying to argue with such a dishonest troll...

It doesn't fix the problem.

No, I've never said that I don't want them. I've said that they don't fix the problems, which is true.

Nor am I aware of anyone else who's argued against them, other than bioware.

You're back to not making any sense.
circumspect = Wary and unwilling to take risks.

that doesn't make any sense in this context.

Yes

No, the 6 hour queues I ran into were, where I gave up were a new alt, and since I hadn't chatted in general with him or grouped, I couldn't have been on any ignore lists... so there just wasn't anyone queuing for dungeons in that level range at that time.

The multi hour looking for a dps was simply that there wasn't anyone available (we checked via /who and whispers); I had done some general chat on that toon (it was my main), but I find it really unlikely that I would have been on ignore for anything I had said (I was pretty helpful in general and level chat).

It was heavy, with queues in the evenings. When they enabled server transfers a few weeks later, you couldn't transfer to it, but you could transfer off of it.

as for "at the time" ... I haven't tracked the server populations in that game for months, so I've got no idea how it stacks up now. But that's not really relevant, since I'm talking about when that game still had only a single server lfg tool (which was back between 1.2 and 1.4 iirc)

You're making 0 sense. If they don't want to use it, and they don't, then they are indeed allowed the same content as other people.. They are allowed the exact same content. There's no difference in content allowed.


... No, I'm sure that anyone who wants to go fishing can do so. I can go to my house, and go into my garage and get my fishing pole and tackle box, put it in my car , and then dive out to a local lake and attach either a lure or bait to my fishing pole, and then fish. The fact that you don't enjoy fishing doesn't enter into it. Calling me names because I tell you "well, if you don't like to go fishing, don't go fishing"

Seriously... do you really not understand the text you're quoting?

There's no red herring involved. If you don't want to group cross server, there's always single server grouping.

You're not making any sense here; like... none.

You like cross server grouping but don't want to cross server group? How does that make any sense?

No, my long term desires include lots of people who also share similar long term desires.

It's in each of the specific counter examples that people have made.

I don't write the game code; if you want bioware to make changes, you'll need to talk to them.

I've never suggested anything like that, so this is just a strawman argument.

No, you haven't; every single one you've offered has been refuted with specific counter examples. Feel free to try again, or post a link to one that hasn't been refuted.

No, there were several specific mathematical examples.

Nope. You have yet to show that any of your concerns are real. Feel free to try if you want to.

Nope. You have yet to show that any of your concerns are real. Feel free to try if you want to. But until you do, the very real, mathematical examples of benefits outweight any pretend examples that you have yet to actually produce.

I don't write game code for swtor; if you want changes made, you'll need to talk to bioware.



Yes.


You have more than 1 false statements in this sentence alone.

I don't have to allow anything. THey are allowed access "the same content" whether they use the cross server lfg tool or not.

I have not made any claim that you will only be able to get with the cross server lfg tool, so that's just a blatant strawman argument.

Sure we have. We've given you a cahnce to actually demonstrate that any of your complaints are valid. You choose not to do so.

No, you disagree, and have posted things that have been refuted. You were wrong because you were wrong, not because you disagreed with me.

I have done neither.

No, you flamed and threw around insults rather than actually debating, and as a result had your posts removed by the mods.

Reroll on a populated server - problem solved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNoJ2BzSRU

"YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!!!' haha good stuff. Rest in peace Mr. Sam Kinison

sorry but that response is so incredibly narrow minded and shows a complete lack of care to your fellow player.

Has been shown to be a bad system. I even posted here a Blizzard Developer who claimed it was bad as wee. You and your Pro XSLFG group had it removed. It was a form of proof that caused panic amongst you and yours.

There is no fear of people, except perhaps those refusing an anti-XSLFG stance. This is an MMO, no matter how people may feel about it.

And for those that do not want it? That is your only argument? What about those that do not want to use it, but still deserve the "same content" that you claim you deserve?

Again, if you were to get it, what about those that "deserve the same content", but will not use a system that is a failed (as has been claimed in an interview by Blizz Dev, which you Pro XSLFG clan had remove) so that they too can experience "the same content" from the game?

There are other games, WoW for one has all you claim is needed, but what of those solo and small group players, again, that do not nor will not use the system you so desire?

Therein lies the problem. You do not want to, You are looking at the self gratification that you hope this "tool" will bring with no consequence of anyone else. Do you then deserve such a function? Your Pro Group has already baldy stated that they do NOT want server Mergers, Only a XSLFG system put in place, no matter what anyone else may say.

It is logical not narrow minded. If a general lack of people is the only thing impeading your progression then GO TO WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE instead of attempting to drag the entire game into the deadspace that you are trying to escape with XSLFG.

If everyone does that, we'll be back to the login Queue problems we had before and then a bunch of unused truly dead servers. In fact, lol, I could see that creating a perpetual cycle where people go back and forth (unless they say the hell with it and quit).

Then why was I replied to directly in the forums, "NO MERGERS WE ONLY WANT A XSLFG".

And was also told "Server Mergers Do Not Work, Only a XSLFG will Be Accepted".

So go back the many pages, of the multitude of Threads and Pages, I have, I would post them, but I have done my share.

Since there are no free transfers...not an option. Some of us have invested quite a bit of time into our toons.