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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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Obiwansghost
04.10.2012 , 09:18 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
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And as you're venting on day one here's a small reminder of what was not in TOR at launch:
  • Swimming
  • Third party addons
  • Minigames
  • Dual spec
  • Day/night cycles
  • Non humanoid based playable races
  • Multiplayer space content
  • 3d space combat
  • Choice of space ship chassis
  • Decoration mechanic for personal ships
  • Planetary housing
  • Pod & Swoop racing
  • Player bounties
  • Companions in Warzones
  • Companion Deaths
  • Animal based pet classes
  • same-gender romance arcs
  • Resources for crafting does not have quality
  • Guild leveling system (cf WAR)
  • Animal mounts
  • Flying mounts
  • Large (20vs20 - or more) multiplayer PvP Warzones
  • World PvP
  • PvP Arenas
  • Collision detection between characters
  • UI Addons
  • Macros
  • Barber / Image Designer
  • Appearance tabs
  • Fishing
  • Guild "Tabard"
  • Multiplayer mounts
  • Gear Dyes
  • Shared storage bank slots
  • In game voice chat
  • LFG tool
  • Guild bank

BTW TOR is the only MMO I know of that launched without any of the above features.
It fails as a MMO.
I happen to disagree.

SWG did NOT have any of these at launch:
Third party add-ons
mingames
Multi-player space combat
3d space combat
Choice of space ship chassis
Decoration mechanic for personal ships
Planetary housing
Pod & Swoop racing
same-gender romance arcs
Guild leveling system (cf WAR)
Large (20vs20 - or more) multiplayer PvP Warzones
PvP Arenas
Collision detection between characters
UI Addons
Appearance tabs
Guild "Tabard"
Gear Dyes
Shared storage bank slots
In game voice chat
LFG tool
Guild bank
Vehicles in SWTOR are NOT mounts.

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Scar
04.10.2012 , 09:26 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe

BTW TOR is the only MMO I know of that launched without any of the above features.
It fails as a MMO.
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll have to chalk that up to you really not knowing what you are saying in English because it's either that, or you haven't played any other mmog's or you have no idea what the hell you're talking about because a lot of stuf you just arbitrarily listed were not in launch a lot of mmog's that have released.

Hell, a lot of those things you listed weren't even in the game you are rushing to defend at launch. So for you to say TOR is the only game to not launch with all those (not going to mention at one point it seemed like you actually started listing TOR features) just seems odd.

Although admittedly, not as odd as seeing some very old faces that have never seemed to like the game still around....

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Ansultares
04.10.2012 , 09:33 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by strangelovebomb View Post
But I think the thing Bioware missed out on was the fact that content based games are designed to be consumed, and once they are consumed, they are boring. I don't think they expected people to consume quite as fast as they have (which is a major mistake on their part). Sandbox elements (I'm not talking a full blown sandbox game, just little bits and pieces) provide almost unlimited extended gameplay, with almost no upkeep from the development standpoint, as most "content" after the element is introduced is provided by the players.
Pretty sure they feel players need to be led entirely by the hand, with zero or next to zero off-rail content, because they've explicitly come out and said so.

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Deewe
04.10.2012 , 09:46 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Scar View Post
I know English isn't your first language, so I'll have to chalk that up to you really not knowing what you are saying in English because it's either that, or you haven't played any other mmog's or you have no idea what the hell you're talking about because a lot of stuf you just arbitrarily listed were not in launch a lot of mmog's that have released.

Hell, a lot of those things you listed weren't even in the game you are rushing to defend at launch. So for you to say TOR is the only game to not launch with all those (not going to mention at one point it seemed like you actually started listing TOR features) just seems odd.

Although admittedly, not as odd as seeing some very old faces that have never seemed to like the game still around....
You both read wrong.

I stated none MMO launched without at least one feature from my list but TOR.

And seeing how the servers are dead and there's not even end content I rest pretty much convinced TOR fails as an MMO. There's not even World PvP. See.
Note: the game can still be great. In a way I'm there to help for that

(Edit: I admit I added some features that would have only worked in TOR ex: same gender romance)
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Gungan
04.10.2012 , 09:51 PM | #125
So when are they going to put in features that make the game more fun? Make PVP meaningful to the war effort? Make robust and challenging PVE encounters that are exciting and vast in scope? Space exploration? Anything at all with implications to the game world on your server?

1.2 is boring as hell. Who cares about Legacy when it's so pointless?

Everything in this game is so darned pointless because the world is completely static, and nothing players do affects it. It's like 2004 all over again.

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Obiwansghost
04.10.2012 , 09:55 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
You both read wrong.

I stated none MMO launched without at least one feature from my list but TOR.

And seeing how the servers are dead and there's not even end content I rest pretty much convinced TOR fails as an MMO. There's not even World PvP. See.

(Edit: I admit I added some features that would have only worked in TOR ex: same gender romance)
No, I read it right.

BTW TOR is the only MMO I know of that launched without any of the above features.
It fails as a MMO.

You did not say without at least one feature. You said any. Moving on.
Vehicles in SWTOR are NOT mounts.

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Gungan
04.10.2012 , 09:58 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Obiwansghost View Post
No, I read it right.

BTW TOR is the only MMO I know of that launched without any of the above features.
It fails as a MMO.

You did not say without at least one feature. You said any. Moving on.
Not having any of those features implies not having at least one. If he meant all, he would have said all.

There are two ways to interpret the statement he made (your way and his way), and they're both correct.

It was simply unclear. The end.

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Deewe
04.10.2012 , 10:01 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
Not having any of those features implies not having at least one. If he meant all, he would have said all.

There are two ways to interpret the statement he made (your way and his way), and they're both correct.

It was simply unclear. The end.
He he thx for the highlight that was indeed my statement.

Always good to improve my English!

Appreciated.
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Obiwansghost
04.10.2012 , 10:11 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
He he thx for the highlight that was indeed my statement.

Always good to improve my English!

Appreciated.
Ah, well. I looked at it again and there are two ways to comprehend your statement. No offense intended.
Vehicles in SWTOR are NOT mounts.

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Deewe
04.10.2012 , 10:13 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Obiwansghost View Post
Ah, well. I looked at it again and there are two ways to comprehend your statement. No offense intended.
/deep_bow
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