No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

I'm not a fan of "down-rating" players who don't perform well. This type of system is prone to griefing and trolling. There are people out there who will go to great lengths to harass a complete stranger. I think a system where you could "up-vote" a player for doing well though could be useful, however it would likely end up turning into another means for players to artificially gate content for other players. We could end up with a game where the good players who have the most to teach other players require a specific player rating before you can join their groups or avoid being kicked from a group with them.

Regardless of whether or not there is a ratings system for players though, the success of a LFG tool is in how it is implemented. This is something many people have been saying on this topic since the first page. I think it's a shame how closed-minded so many players have become on this topic simply because of the relatively few bad experiences they had in another game. There is plenty of room for a compromise that would work well and work for both sides of the issue. It's just proven to be very challenging to get individuals to set aside their egos long enough to discuss it intelligently.

Anyone who says a server side only LFG tool will work on a low pop server is just not being realistic.

I'm not a fan of "down-rating" players who don't perform well. This type of system is prone to griefing and trolling. There are people out there who will go to great lengths to harass a complete stranger. I think a system where you could "up-vote" a player for doing well though could be useful, however it would likely end up turning into another means for players to artificially gate content for other players. We could end up with a game where the good players who have the most to teach other players require a specific player rating before you can join their groups or avoid being kicked from a group with them.

Regardless of whether or not there is a ratings system for players though, the success of a LFG tool is in how it is implemented. This is something many people have been saying on this topic since the first page. I think it's a shame how closed-minded so many players have become on this topic simply because of the relatively few bad experiences they had in another game. There is plenty of room for a compromise that would work well and work for both sides of the issue. It's just proven to be very challenging to get individuals to set aside their egos long enough to discuss it intelligently.

Compromise is there, but in most cases not by the LFG pro faction.

The bad community was already there long before the LFD tool came in.

There were videos on youtube weekly of someone who had pugged a raid, then when a legendary or epic dropped he ninja'd it.

There were many complaints of Guilds who would pug a few players then give them no loot at all during the raid.

The bad attitudes always existed. But because you're playing with a much larger pool of players, the chances of coming across a bad one were now higher. That's all it was. People didn't change because of the tool, the tool allowed you to see that there were more bad players on other servers.

We're also not saying copy the WoW tool exactly, we're saying take the idea of a cross-server tool and work on it to make it better.

I still don't understand why any x-server LFG is a bad idea. There's countless threads abotu peoples servers dying and no one to group with. Yet people still hold onto "it'll kill the community" line. If the server can't form a HM or Op then it has no community already. If you don't like the tool then no one is going to force you to use it so quit telling people no tool. I'm lucky that my server has a decent pop. I do work graveyard so I see it down in the teens during the wee hours of the morning. I would quit if it was like that the majority of the time. Why should anyone pay a monthly fee for a single player game experience?

You make some really good points. I think some who are against a cross server LFG tool are on high pop servers or in a active guild which does runs together and think there is no problem finding a group sence they don'nt have any. Others are ok with a server side one, but are not being realistic in expecting such a tool to work on low pop servers.

I still see it this way...if BioWare insists on having the LFG server side only for PVE then they will need to do several server merges in order for it to work well. If they donot want to merge servers then they have two choices.....create a cross server LFG tool or continue to lose subs.
You cannot expect players to pay the same sub fee and still not be able to do the end game content. I still think a cross server LFG tool is the way to go.