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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.10.2012 , 07:21 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
What is there to debate, the on rails system is far superior to jtl ?
This :
I ask for a responsible reply after you watch this, starting at 2:10, and tell me I should not be "slightly disappointed" about what we got in TOR, eight years later.

Only for special people who constantly say how "horrible" SWG was and how "great" the decision was to design everything differently in TOR.

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Shingara
04.10.2012 , 07:24 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
This :
can you not read or something or do you see a line of letters and make the words up yourself ?

Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
Only for special people who constantly say how "horrible" this game was and how "great" the decision was to design everything differently.
Dont you mean all the special people who thought space wasnt a mini game at launch which it was advertised as.
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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Cerion
04.10.2012 , 07:28 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Deewe View Post
Here's a few more:


World PvP

6:11

Character customization

6:12


World immersion

6:13

Gear design

6:14

Non combat based classes

6:15

Characters uniqueness (skills templates/choices)
6:16

Player driven economy
6:17

Instanced content
7:17
Oh this is fun, can I play???

Companions
8/17

Setting in which Jedi are appropriate
9/16 (-1 foul on SWG)

A multitude of vehicles at launch
10/16

Actual content
11/16

Immersion in setting that actually feels like Star Wars
12/16

Heroics/Group content
13/16

Sith
14/16

No ten minute wait for shuttles
15/16

Space Ships at launch
16/16

entertaining LS/DS system
17/16

Setting/timeframe that allows BW to be creative and create new content outside of the movies.
18/16



Hmmm, by my score, SWTOR wins!!! Gee, ain't this fun?
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.10.2012 , 07:37 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
can you not read or something or do you see a line of letters and make the words up yourself ?

Dont you mean all the special people who thought space wasnt a mini game at launch which it was advertised as.
I donīt care "how it was advertised", the space minigame sucks huttballs, dear friend.
And the concept of TOR prevents everything which is shown in the 8 year old SWG video, donīt you get the difference between an open world planet and instanced maps of corridor planets?

Today I learned: Designing MMOs -- this must be the duck which lays golden eggs, incredibly low expectations of MMO customers make this genre a cash cow.

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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.10.2012 , 07:43 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Cerion View Post
Oh this is fun, can I play???


Hmmm, by my score, SWTOR wins!!! Gee, ain't this fun?

/facepalm

double and triple points donīt count, and.. oh heck I wonīt even start to take your "list" apart.

So that is what you call a feature list.

Wait.. wait.. ermm..

/facepalm

ah, whatever. You are right. I give up. See ya around in two years. Perhaps there is a new trial then.

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DocHolyday
04.10.2012 , 08:15 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
/facepalm

double and triple points donīt count, and.. oh heck I wonīt even start to take your "list" apart.

So that is what you call a feature list.

Wait.. wait.. ermm..

/facepalm

ah, whatever. You are right. I give up. See ya around in two years. Perhaps there is a new trial then.
Don't want to be rude, but if you use your link and select the first video on the right, you have a good raison why NOT use this kind of flying with SWTOR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g97RV...eature=related

I don't want to play in a world where i will see that kind of not immersive situation !

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Shingara
04.10.2012 , 08:20 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
I donīt care "how it was advertised", the space minigame sucks huttballs, dear friend.
And the concept of TOR prevents everything which is shown in the 8 year old SWG video, donīt you get the difference between an open world planet and instanced maps of corridor planets?

Today I learned: Designing MMOs -- this must be the duck which lays golden eggs, incredibly low expectations of MMO customers make this genre a cash cow.
Right so you dont care how it was advertised. so thats your excuse for flaming it, because it was advertised as a minigame at launch you decide to ignore the facts stated by bioware and take it upon yourself to create your own advert in your mind as to what it should be.

Lets weigh these up shall we, fact =/ in your head, no they dont add up.

And just for your info sherman i was shingara aragnihs, rebel bounty hunter on euro infinity swg, 19 confirmed jedi permakills. Owner of a Y8 mining batttle ship with compliment of 12 real people not npcs. so dont try tell me what swg was like cos i probably know better then you.
Health Warning - Thread May Contain Nuts.
First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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TheRealYukonSam
04.10.2012 , 08:40 PM | #118
SWG was the ocean.

TOR is a colorful tidal pool.

Which is better? That depends. You wanna splash in the shallows or dive deep?

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Deewe
04.10.2012 , 08:56 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Cerion View Post
Oh this is fun, can I play???

Companions
8/17

Setting in which Jedi are appropriate
9/16 (-1 foul on SWG)

A multitude of vehicles at launch
10/16

Actual content
11/16

Immersion in setting that actually feels like Star Wars
12/16

Heroics/Group content
13/16

Sith
14/16

No ten minute wait for shuttles
15/16

Space Ships at launch
16/16

entertaining LS/DS system
17/16

Setting/timeframe that allows BW to be creative and create new content outside of the movies.
18/16



Hmmm, by my score, SWTOR wins!!! Gee, ain't this fun?
Required pet classes for solo play (normal mode)

17/16

No pet classes for multiplayer game play (aka full groups)

16/16

Jedi in Hutt ball & glow bats
15/16

Animal mounts
15/17

Great choice of space ships
15/18

Endless player driven content
15/19 (Could have removed 1 for TOR lack of end content)

World that feels like a world not a graveyard
14/19 (already added one before but TOR deserves less 1 on the setting)

20 players made groups wihout need to be of the same level to enjoy the content(pre-cu)
14/20

Space sim
13/20 (already added 1 to SWG but you are right TOR deserves a minus 1 on that lacklustre feature)

LDS/DS
12/21 (Does not even deserves a point regarding how it was implemented and in SW you could actually be dark sided

And as you're venting on day one here's a small reminder of what was not in TOR at launch:
  • Swimming
  • Third party addons
  • Minigames
  • Dual spec
  • Day/night cycles
  • Non humanoid based playable races
  • Multiplayer space content
  • 3d space combat
  • Choice of space ship chassis
  • Decoration mechanic for personal ships
  • Planetary housing
  • Pod & Swoop racing
  • Player bounties
  • Companions in Warzones
  • Companion Deaths
  • Animal based pet classes
  • same-gender romance arcs
  • Resources for crafting does not have quality
  • Guild leveling system (cf WAR)
  • Animal mounts
  • Flying mounts
  • Large (20vs20 - or more) multiplayer PvP Warzones
  • World PvP
  • PvP Arenas
  • Collision detection between characters
  • UI Addons
  • Macros
  • Barber / Image Designer
  • Appearance tabs
  • Fishing
  • Guild "Tabard"
  • Multiplayer mounts
  • Gear Dyes
  • Shared storage bank slots
  • In game voice chat
  • LFG tool
  • Guild bank

BTW TOR is the only MMO I know of that launched without any of the above features.
It fails as a MMO.
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Dark_Hazard
04.10.2012 , 08:59 PM | #120
SWTOR is way better of a game then SWG... There is no comparison.
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