Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

Hey, WoW tried that too. It didn't work, just like it won't here, and cross server will be the next iteration.

Hopefully the single-server failure is quick, so they can put in the tool they should have in the first place.

Hehe..not going to be proclaiming myself as a master of the Universe, but atleast you do see the logic of a server side only LFG tool for PVE working well on low pop server. Not going to happen. Will I stay around long enough to try it?...sure. But from past experence I donot have any faith it will work well. The truth is, a cross server LFG tool does what it is intended to do. Which is finds you a group to experence end game content with. The social parts of the game, you are still free to exercise that in the way you see best on your server.

Well M. Order, I had listed out a lot of people, and articles, it was removed by the pro XSLFG group.

All you have is people and desires, wants, and entitlement, no proof what so ever and that it is all that you can claim.

Asides from your short retort on one line, why did you do nothing about the rest of the layout? That which even did include your failed, but vaunted, XSLFG, (which I had posted earlier containing one such article with a Dev of another company that said it was a failure), and the allowances for you getting such XSLFG feature?

Or did you just skip everything by and ignore the rest? Leaving you with a false sense of knowledge on the matter, because you figured one line is all you needed to know the whole premise.

Oh yeah, never have I bothered to list some "apparent occasions when someone was mean to you" in these threads. I have no need to, but again that false sense of knowing things that you do not, as there are plenty of reasons to not want that failed feature.

Just so you know, in short, uncomplicated terms, that require little real need for thought, yes I do not like XSLFG. BUT if you get it, you must consider all the people who do not like it or want it in more than "just don't use it then" attitude. Those people who WILL NOT use XSLFG must be "allowed the same content" as you claim that you XSLFG'ers say you both NEED and want.

There is more to grouping than flashpoints - and for everything else a cross-server LFG tool will not suffice. It also eliminates what over 12 years of MMO gaming I have determined is the best way to find the "right" guild or make the "best" quality of friends: running in groups with people and evaluating how they play and how they handle potentially difficult situations.

I already have a level 50 on one server but with patch 1.2 coming I elected to start off fresh on a new server - primarily because I knew I wanted to unlock certain races and understanding how Legacy was going to work I wanted a fresh start to establish the connected Legacy I wanted. So when I say that the real cure for "low population blues" is "reroll on a higher population server" I am speaking from the experience of someone who has that level 50 character.

My new server's main is the same base class as my old server's main - just going to be a sorcerer (healer) this time instead of an assassin (tank).

If you are serious about wanting to group more and don't just want to sit in the Fleet and wait for your FP queue to pop then you need to consider there's more to grouping than just flashpoints. Unless xserver will somehow magically work for heroics too I would predict that the same thing will happen to TOR that happened to Rift and WoW - the areas outside of the main capital hubs (fleets) will turn into ghosttowns and no one will be doing heroics outside of getting their high level guildies (if they have any) to run them.

We have no power to remove your posts, so you'll excuse me if I find your claims that your so-called proof was deleted as being somewhat whimsical.

Also, you lied earlier, you said you weren't going to say anything more on the subject?

In WoW I found my guild via the LFD tool, great bunch of guys that I really loved playing with.

Also, currently anywhere outside of the Fleet is a ghost town! Because everyone is being forced to sit in the Fleet spamming to get a pug for a Flashpoint. At least with a Group Finder we can go off and do dailies, level up or whatever whilst searching for a group.

Lets hope you strategically planned this to coincide with the 30 days free time that you gave us, that's for your sake. Otherwise you are going to lose players interest to games such as Tera, GW2 and the like.


Dungeon Finder should have been in at release, it's a pity that your leash holder "EA" doesn't recognize that. It seems content to just suck the life out of any title an let it die. I miss the old Bioware before it had to answer to the man, you were better back then. Everything you have released this year has been a disaster.

Let's look at the facts here....

WoW, the mmorpg that implemented the xslfg still has 10+ million subs, will most likely shoot back up to 11 or 12 million when the next expansion comes out.

so to spell it out in plain english, xslfg worked for WoW as they are still going strong and won't be going to F2P anytime soon.

personally, i want the xslfg. it saves me time from trying to put a group together. and plenty of times in a pug, i meet people and chat during the run, so there is a sense of community.

what gets me is that the ones that don't want the xslfg don't really have to use it. they can still spam chat to form the groups. so why is the xslfg such an issue?

if you still find groups easily while spamming chat, that's great! you can still have it your way. if you can't find groups, well, then you might want to rethink what the majority wants as well as rethink what works and doesn't work.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE no dungen finder in swtor.

lets start at the beggining. I heard that the smart guys at bioware were thinking of inplementing a WoW style dungen finder in game. I CANNOT STRESS HOW MUCH OF A BAD IDEA THIS IS! from what i saw and from asking in general chat, it is ment to be a full wow style dungen finder. NO! bioware, please if you value your game, no, don't do this.

i have RESONS for my hate.
1.) wow's dungen finder KILLED the community
2.) wow's dungen finder KILLED azeroth
3.) wow's dungen finder mass pruduced ninja pullers, looters, trolls, QQers
these are the tree main resons that i hate the dungen finder concept. i will now go into each of the three and do a large amount of moneing. A LARGE AMOUNT!

firstly, killing the community. wow used to have a thriveing community on each server that was built up with each new player. you had to manualy find a group from your friends lists. this meant that if the group was good, you could add them to a list of friends for future use. or if theres an offencive, rude, aggresive members of the community would be segregated and forced into being nicer/better. wow's dungen finder stopped that entirely.
With the dungen finder, there was no need to meet and remember people on the server because it was random people that you grouped with last time from random servers who you will never see each other again.

secondly, it killed the world. in the days of old, each zone was buzzing with people all leveling and looking for groups and trolling and moneing, it was fantastic. then came the dungen finder... and suddenly every one could level faster through just standing queing for the dungens, so the zones died. now i understand that the questing of swtor is a massive part of the gameplay, but after you've been through it once or twice or thrice, or even 8 times! there will be no need to quest for the story, so you could just stand in the fleet and que for flash points... BOOM game worlds are dead.

finaly all the idiots tha this system creates. because theres no way of punishing these morons, so the morons run rampent in the dungens doing whatever the **** they feel like and makeing life miserable for everyone exept them. befor, when there was community, these people would be outcasted and ignored out of wow. with this system putin. THIS WILL START HAPPENING! then we will start complaining and bioware might actualy start loesing subs, then swtor dies, and no one wants that.

think bioware, please think. i cant stop you from doing this, but think. to all of you, think about the damage this would to swtor. do we realy want this? DO WE? belive me, the above will happen.

No, don't do it.. This game will turn into WoW. The most succesful MMO out there, It already has too many of it's aspects like Dual Spec, Achievements, LFG tool, Rated WZ's..

/sarcasm

It'sa myth that it destroys communitites, If people have it so easy to find groups then what's it to them if some random guy has it easier for himself to find a group?

Makes no sense at all, It's just a bandwagon of trolls. LFG tool will make it way easier to level with flashpoints and do all of the heroics on a planet. Does not affect the player that can find groups easily one bit, It just makes things better.