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GalacticKegger
04.10.2012 , 04:06 PM | #281
Quote: Originally Posted by Incendergel View Post
Therein lies the problem with regards to your statement, and others. All you care about is the in-game community on "YOUR" server. And that is all you need for proof.

The sad truth of the matter is you are ignoring the same proof people are providing you based on their in-game community and their server. Isn't that a double standard? I mean honestly if you say the game is fine based on your server yet others are saying that it isn't based on the server they are playing yet you ignore it.

You can't have it both ways.

People are stating facts that the server they play on is a ghost town. Republic fleets having 11 to 33 people during prime time...imagine what the starting or other planets have. You think people are making this crap up?

Deny all you want. It is a issue and people are leaving because of it. Those are the sad facts.
Please accept my apologies. Perhaps I should have put a period after "All I care is that the game will be fine." The subsentence after that about the in-game community on our server being all I need for proof is accurate. For that I won't apologize because it's the only accurate gauge I have. It's the only accurate gauge anyone has.

I chose to hang with our server community when queue hell broke loose during early access. As mostly seasoned players who understood & accepted how this MMO launch thing works, we (the server community) gathered around the campfire, sang Kumbaya or whatever & rode it out together. The server is healthy, active and mature now for it. Mask of Nihilus for those scoring at home.

What created this whole thing was Bioware placating the screams of an impetulant mob over login queues during early access by adding 6 dozen new servers at launch. Those players, who rerolled on the new low pop servers they so vehemently begged for, are the same players who are now screaming that their servers are dead. (Most everyone else is making their point in a post then letting it go.) Instead of patiently waiting out the 3+ weeks it took BW to fix the queue issues (like our server did) they got their wish and blew themselves up with it.

I don't feel for the ones who got impatient and bailed for the new low pop servers - because they created this mess. But I honestly do feel for the players who are stranded on low pop servers now because of it. It is an issue, just not a pandemic as some sensationalists would have us believe. Hope to Hades that this gets fixed tout de suite and that BW never listens to screaming mobs again.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Incendergel
04.10.2012 , 04:56 PM | #282
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
Mid-day on a weekday people work, go to class, etc. Peak occurs from roughly 6 pm to midnight.
No one is arguing that. Go back through the entire thread and you will see people are noting the time of day, day of week, etc. We all know East vs. West vs. School vs. Work. While I do not think you had any ill will towards what I said you can go back and see that I always include time of day, day of week, etc.

What I'm basically saying is that I already know this and aware people will call that out. In short, I'm not trying to hide. If you want I will post the numbers now for The Fatman and then come around again later and post the Dragon Trail to show the difference. It won't matter because it will be about the same.

Heck, let me do that. Logging into the Fatman now.

3:53 PM PST / 6:53 PM EST
Balmorra: 130 people
Imperial Fleet: 27 people / shard - I'm in instance 2

3:55 PM PST / 6:55 PM EST
Republic Fleet: 25 people
I KNOW THIS IS NOT PRIME TIME - used for a reference is all
Not shard, single instance

Will post back in about 3 hours to show the difference. That will be 6/9'ish West/East...
You do the math...

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evoleye
04.10.2012 , 04:56 PM | #283
Right now on The Fatman, 50 vs 50 battle on Ilum. More people in that zone than a couple of servers combined fleets. Join the fun. Let The Fatman consume you!

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Incendergel
04.10.2012 , 05:03 PM | #284
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Please accept my apologies. Perhaps I should have put a period after "All I care is that the game will be fine." The subsentence after that about the in-game community on our server being all I need for proof is accurate. For that I won't apologize because it's the only accurate gauge I have. It's the only accurate gauge anyone has.

I chose to hang with our server community when queue hell broke loose during early access. As mostly seasoned players who understood & accepted how this MMO launch thing works, we (the server community) gathered around the campfire, sang Kumbaya or whatever & rode it out together. The server is healthy, active and mature now for it. Mask of Nihilus for those scoring at home.

What created this whole thing was Bioware placating the screams of an impetulant mob over login queues during early access by adding 6 dozen new servers at launch. Those players, who rerolled on the new low pop servers they so vehemently begged for, are the same players who are now screaming that their servers are dead. (Most everyone else is making their point in a post then letting it go.) Instead of patiently waiting out the 3+ weeks it took BW to fix the queue issues (like our server did) they got their wish and blew themselves up with it.

I don't feel for the ones who got impatient and bailed for the new low pop servers - because they created this mess. But I honestly do feel for the players who are stranded on low pop servers now because of it. It is an issue, just not a pandemic as some sensationalists would have us believe. Hope to Hades that this gets fixed tout de suite and that BW never listens to screaming mobs again.
Interesting.

I don't disagree with some of your comments actually. I'm also not the one using third party references for server statistics. I'm honestly just stating what I see based on the server I play on. Pretty much what you said how you judge the pulse of the game. Honestly, that is all either of us can do.

No apology is needed, although I believe you said that in jest, if not, I apologize Now with that cleared I'll tell you this. The game looks and feels different when you play on a higher populated server AND faction. I'm dead serious. I'm originally from Dragon Trail. You will see that throughout all my posts. Moving to Fatman the game feels different and has a thriving economy. I can finish my heroic quests. I can buy things off the galactic trader. I ignore more people due to silly or gross chat. It looks and feels that different and honestly makes a more enjoyable playtime.

Some people have a lot invested in their characters either by the real life time they are allocated or just a virtual bond. Then there is the virtual credits, crafting alts, etc. It is what it is.

I guess what I'm telling you, and others outside the game is dead, 20 million of this, 1 million of that; is that server population and faction imbalance directly effect the quality of the game. Because of this it also directly impacts the subscriber base because some people will leave for whatever reason for which I won't name. Why? Because I can only speak for my actions.

I would prefer open server transfers to occur before the patch drop. That is just my opinion. I think it will provide a bigger bang for the buck than a LFG tool or anything else for that matter.

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Almar
04.10.2012 , 05:04 PM | #285
Servers will fill up again once 1.2 comes out. People simply got bored that's all. Kinda what happens when you race to endgame =P

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Fox_McCloud
04.10.2012 , 05:13 PM | #286
Quote: Originally Posted by KrittaB View Post
I'm actually really looking forward to that, just so that all of you people will leave us alone and go complain about that game instead.
When all of us people go there instead, your game will have barely any population left.

SWTOR will be free to play very soon. Who knows how long until this sinking ship closes down.

Either way you wont have anyone left to play with, they will all be over at Guild Wars 2.

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Pseudofate
04.10.2012 , 05:18 PM | #287
Quote: Originally Posted by Fox_McCloud View Post
Either way you wont have anyone left to play with, they will all be over at Guild Wars 2.
This made me laugh.

A lot.

Repeatedly.
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Shingara
04.10.2012 , 05:23 PM | #288
Quote: Originally Posted by Almar View Post
Servers will fill up again once 1.2 comes out. People simply got bored that's all. Kinda what happens when you race to endgame =P
Happens in most mmos to be truthful, peeps clammer for the game rush it and knock themselves out. go away for a bit until the content gets added then come back, when they come back if they like what they see they stay if they dont they go. simple as that.

And the server population is just a by product of millions of peeps all hitting the game on day one-seven, finding a huge q to the server they wanted to go onto. played on a dif server to not have the q and once the q's settled down and the server caps were increased went to the server they intended to goto in the 1st place where all there mates are.
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Shadollan
04.10.2012 , 05:40 PM | #289
Hi,
the number of active players is going down .. this is normal!
SWTOR = F2P? .. Never!
Star Wars Galaxies was becoming to an end, without Free to play!
This will not be here otherwise!
Or looks the Boss from BioWare looks like F2P? http://www7.pic-upload.de/23.03.12/mzw7dn5m7i6f.jpg
stays cool, BioWare loves the game like we do!

regards

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GalacticKegger
04.10.2012 , 05:44 PM | #290
Quote: Originally Posted by Incendergel View Post
Interesting.

I don't disagree with some of your comments actually. I'm also not the one using third party references for server statistics. I'm honestly just stating what I see based on the server I play on. Pretty much what you said how you judge the pulse of the game. Honestly, that is all either of us can do.

No apology is needed, although I believe you said that in jest, if not, I apologize Now with that cleared I'll tell you this. The game looks and feels different when you play on a higher populated server AND faction. I'm dead serious. I'm originally from Dragon Trail. You will see that throughout all my posts. Moving to Fatman the game feels different and has a thriving economy. I can finish my heroic quests. I can buy things off the galactic trader. I ignore more people due to silly or gross chat. It looks and feels that different and honestly makes a more enjoyable playtime.

Some people have a lot invested in their characters either by the real life time they are allocated or just a virtual bond. Then there is the virtual credits, crafting alts, etc. It is what it is.

I guess what I'm telling you, and others outside the game is dead, 20 million of this, 1 million of that; is that server population and faction imbalance directly effect the quality of the game. Because of this it also directly impacts the subscriber base because some people will leave for whatever reason for which I won't name. Why? Because I can only speak for my actions.

I would prefer open server transfers to occur before the patch drop. That is just my opinion. I think it will provide a bigger bang for the buck than a LFG tool or anything else for that matter.
I concur completely, and also believe character transfers is the way to go.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?