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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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My Thoughts on the SWTOR Hate

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Reico
04.10.2012 , 04:23 PM | #91
So, when the NGE push came along, we were asked to reimagine the game.

Not just small changes, but rebuild it.

And it was needed. When we were asked, we were bleeding subscribers.

If I remember correctly, somewhere around 10k a month. LOSING 10,000
subs a month.
Note – I think our subs were closer to 160-180 than 200k. It was a bad financial situation no matter how you look at it.

It was not idyllic. You can remember it as an amazing game, but it wasn’t.

Hell, all of you who recall the grand ole days of launch seem to
conveniently forget that everyone quit shortly afterwards.



Why would BW want to copy a design that even the designer says is bad. What they did with the NGE was pretty much copy WoW to stabilize the game.
PVPers are the biggest cry babies of any community
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Brickabrack
04.10.2012 , 04:24 PM | #92
What I'm not quite seeing is why SWG is brought up at all; it's a dead game. If ex SWG players hate on TOR because it's not like SWG (which I contend is an overly simplistic reduction on the motivations of these people), they shouldn't be directing their anger at TOR or BioWare, who made thier own Star Wars game with a different vision, they should be directing their ire at SOE and Lucas, who failed them.
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

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Malefactor
04.10.2012 , 04:37 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Brickabrack View Post
they shouldn't be directing their anger at TOR or BioWare, who made thier own Star Wars game with a different vision, they should be directing their ire at SOE and Lucas, who failed them.
^This right here. Even worse though, some on these forums openly admit to being here to cause grief, in effect taking out their anger at SOE and LA on those who had absolutely nothing to do with any of it, SW:TOR players. Not only is it extremely childish, it is entirely misdirected.
Hyperbole: The angry forum poster's weapon of choice.

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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.10.2012 , 04:42 PM | #94
I ask for a responsible reply after you watch this, starting at 2:10, and tell me I should not be "slightly disappointed" about what we got in TOR, eight years later.


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Jett-Rinn
04.10.2012 , 04:42 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
Ok, tell my about your SWG-vet history.
There is no SWG-vet I know of who is satisfied with the direction TOR has taken, perhaps you can enlighten us?
I can enlighten you.

I was a SWG beta tester, and CE holder (gotta love those shades) I still have my lightsaber on my Keychain. I played on SWG/Kettemoor did my holo grind for jedi I left shortly after NGE and came back for a brief time and left again.

Comparatively SWTOR is ten times as fun as SWG ever was; I like the direction the game is going and have no plans to leave any time soon. I also find the jilted SWG fan that purchased TOR just to grief on the forums an embarrassment to one of the few decent things about SWG...the community.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Lord_Ravenhurst
04.10.2012 , 04:52 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Blistrich View Post

And Raven, again, I get where you're coming from. Elements of this game don't appeal to you because you were hoping for something else. As a general rule, and I recommend this for everyone, never play a new game with expectations and never assume that the state said game is in (SWTOR is in vanilla) will remain that way. I suggest staying tuned and seeing how post 1.2 goes. Perhaps it won't be until the first expansion that you begin to see new stuff that you like, but it might be worth the wait.
absolutely, and I´ll keep an eye on the development updates, I hope the progress goes well.
I want this game to be great for everyone, and since it is still "fresh" I´m hoping my pessimistic view at the moment will be proven wrong.

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Reico
04.10.2012 , 04:52 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
I can enlighten you.

I was a SWG beta tester, and CE holder (gotta love those shades) I still have my lightsaber on my Keychain. I played on SWG/Kettemoor did my holo grind for jedi I left shortly after NGE and came back for a brief time and left again.

Comparatively SWTOR is ten times as fun as SWG ever was; I like the direction the game is going and have no plans to leave any time soon. I also find the jilted SWG fan that purchased TOR just to grief on the forums an embarrassment to one of the few decent things about SWG...the community.

/thread
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Sarfux
04.10.2012 , 05:02 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
yeah, too bad

Trashed SWG, got WoW, what an exchange
got wow..lol. ***. Just because an online game has hotkeys and took things from the previous game and capitalized on them and made them better doesn't make it a copy...

you want to see a copy of wow? play runes of magic...

btw...swg sucked
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Almar
04.10.2012 , 05:04 PM | #99
Haters gonna hate seems to be a good phrase to say here. They always will. Always. SWTOR is doing great with its subs though, I am not worried at all about it going anywhere anytime soon.

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CorellianWannabe
04.10.2012 , 06:24 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedian View Post
I long for the days when game forums were places to exchange information and advice rather than sharing opinions. Most forum posts are by people too lazy to create an actual blog (that no one would read).
So you felt the need to... share your opinion?