Queue

Looking at the recent pops, there's a few that have dropped from heavy in PT to standard in PT.

TOFN is the only EU server with queues though, there's 3 others at heavy or very heavy now.

....what?

Dude, people are rerolling to Fatman and 2-3 other servers because there is no one left to play with on their servers.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...350700&page=15

Byerley did a fairly decent job of explaining it. If you search, Notdonnareed had a fairly similar conclusion in regards to population caps as well.

350 appears to be the the bare minimum required for standard ranking on the server list. Where this number caps at is still speculation, but it is probably around 2000. 1800 was reported by others a few times.

Assuming that the heavy and full servers are at 2500 or more, and noting that there are only 5 or so out of the (last I heard) 200 or so other servers.

Even saying there are 10 good servers with an average population of 2500 or more between EU and US, that's only 25,000. The other 190 servers with an average of 500 (which includes the light servers with under 350, and the standard servers with 1800 or so, so 500 is the number I went with) comes out to be a bit short of 100,000.

125,000 is roughly consistent with the fact that rarely, if ever, do MMO's have more then 10% of their player base playing. Which, when multiplied out, comes to a bit under 1.25 million subs (given that I rounded up slightly earlier). This number isn't too unrealistic either.

If you increase the average population per server to be 600 or even 700/800, you still don't see much of a total increase, only get the subs up to 1.4 mil, 1.5 or so. You still don't have enough of a population to make a difference, simply because there are too many friggen servers. Ergo, people are reolling from their dead ones to new ones in order to play the game.

God, I don't understand how anyone can sit here and act like anywhere from 15 to 60% or more of the playerbase is experiencing issues with population. These threads don't pop up here for no reason. These aren't threads about how the game sucks, or people suck, or some missing feature sucks, no. They are from people who just want to actually play the game in the manner in which it was intended

I'm hoping it's just pre-1.2 blues, because the two many servers I play on have dropped from V Heavy/Heavy to Standard now.

blame the rerollers, not bioware.

This... I'm gone until then, enjoy yourselves.

This is really starting to seem like the degeneration of the overall maturity of the player base.

What used to be filled with tinkerers, explorers, and creative problem solvers is now apparently becoming more and more filled up with... yeah you get the point.

The sad part is... this is most likely only going to get worse as time goes on.

Idiocracy is a prophecy, not a comedy.

EDIT: Let me be clear that I am referring to the OMG 20 Minute QUEUE I AM /QUITTING people. There are plenty of valid complaints and concerns about the game... but this isn't one of them, IMHO.

If it wasn't for the same 30 or so people starting & gang banging multiple threads you could have a point. But it is the same 30 or so people starting & gang banging multiple threads like denial of service attacks in the hope of ... actually I don't think even they know what they're doing. Can't wait for summer. By then most griefers will have vamoosed.

Is there a server population problem? Yes. Is it a pandemic? No. Is it even widespread? No. Will it get fixed? Yes. When? Player's option to stick around and find out. If you choose to stay, we'll make this work and have fun doing it. If you choose to leave, just don't go schoolyard punk and spit in people's faces on the way out.

I rerolled on that server a few days ago
Just incase my server fails and server transfers/merges aren't till next year

Don't give us the crap that we wanted more servers etc.

It's not our business or decision to provide us a healthy MMO environment to play.

They could well increase the server limits to double what they are now.

I've logged into most populated servers. They are NOT 1/10 as crowded as many evenings I've seen some WoW servers back in vanilla and TBC.

We as paying subscribers, demand servers that we can find groups for stuff and not wait for queues. That's it.

Sorry, you are completely wrong on this. There have been dozens of posts from people with little or no post history at all saying/asking about mergers. You don't get 10000's of views on topics from the same 30 people man.


You obviously read my post. How can you tell me that 15% to 60% or possibly more of the playerbase isn't widespread? Do you think my numbers are off? Do you think that an average of 500 to 600 players per server is active and healthy?

Listen, I'm not leaving or spitting on anyone or anything, but the fact that over 90% of the servers fail to reach heavy at any point in the past 2-3 months indicates that there is a severe population problem.