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Who Swtor was made for.


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DarthDetonate
04.10.2012 , 09:18 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Shrikestalker View Post
Make sure you let him know that The Secret World is going to have a cash shop (confirmed) which may be a disqualifer.

Many players don't like being charged a subscription monthly price AND having a cash shop in game as well, which The Secret World is going to do.
Not to sound to defensive, but the cash shop effects novelty items such as clothing and has been stated time and time again will not give one player an edge over another.

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Gungan
04.10.2012 , 09:18 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Shrikestalker View Post
Make sure you let him know that The Secret World is going to have a cash shop (confirmed) which may be a disqualifer.

Many players don't like being charged a subscription monthly price AND having a cash shop in game as well, which The Secret World is going to do.
Contemporary settings ftl

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Gungan
04.10.2012 , 09:20 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDetonate View Post
Not to sound to defensive, but the cash shop effects novelty items such as clothing and has been stated time and time again will not give one player an edge over another.
It's pretty much like the WoW cash shop, with unique mounts and vanity pets.

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GalacticKegger
04.10.2012 , 09:22 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Seregul View Post
All this tells me is that you think of yourself as casual, and therefore the way you play must be what defines someone as casual. Also that you aren't particularly threatened by people who play less than you, and you feel obligated to take potshots at those who play more than you.

The reason most of these definitions fail is because they attempt to look at casual and hardcore as existing on a single spectrum. That isn't accurate at all.
LOL ... it isn't fail or win - merely one's personal perspective. Condescendence will get you nowhere.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Shrikestalker
04.10.2012 , 09:26 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDetonate View Post
Not to sound to defensive, but the cash shop effects novelty items such as clothing and has been stated time and time again will not give one player an edge over another.
And you've seen the cash shop to confirm this, right? I don't think you're defensive, a bit trusting of Funcom that's all.

Btw, I plan on playing TSW so I'm not downing the game.. just being realistic that if I see something in that shop that 'aid's players, it wouldn't suprise me.

But the point still stands, an awful lot of gamers won't even try TSW because they will be charging a sub monthly as well as having a full-on cash shop. Some players think for $15/month EVERYTHING should be included inside the game, including all the styles of clothing that undoubtedly will be sold for the human only choices players have as toons.

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DarthDetonate
04.10.2012 , 09:31 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Shrikestalker View Post
And you've seen the cash shop to confirm this, right? I don't think you're defensive, a bit trusting of Funcom that's all.

Btw, I plan on playing TSW so I'm not downing the game.. just being realistic that if I see something in that shop that 'aid's players, it wouldn't suprise me.

But the point still stands, an awful lot of gamers won't even try TSW because they will be charging a sub monthly as well as having a full-on cash shop. Some players think for $15/month EVERYTHING should be included inside the game, including all the styles of clothing that undoubtedly will be sold for the human only choices players have as toons.
I have not played in the closed beta so i havent interacted with the "cash shop" My information is coming from about 12 different interviews with the Lead Designer from 2009 till now. Not that things cant/wont change as the game matures, it is currently not their intention to have a pay to win game.

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Jett-Rinn
04.10.2012 , 09:34 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
I don't see why you would find any heroic 2's challenging. I did all mine with very little effort. In fact they felt roughly the difficulty of normal quests in previous MMOs (which involve actual use of class mechanics and strategy instead of blasting mindlessly through like every normal quest in this game).

Heroic 4's certainly can't be soloed by all classes, and only stealthers can do it, because they're hax.

I don't consider myself hardcore either, and you don't have to be be a competent player.
I disagree and I have seen people say the same thing in other games and it always ends up the same...the devs jump and crank up the difficulty and the players who said it was too easy are nowhere to be found when the fallout hits.

I just hope BioWare has learned from other developers mistakes in this matter.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Gungan
04.10.2012 , 09:37 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
I disagree and I have seen people say the same thing in other games and it always ends up the same...the devs jump and crank up the difficulty and the players who said it was too easy are nowhere to be found when the fallout hits.

I just hope BioWare has learned from other developers mistakes in this matter.
They have. The 1.2 operation (and flashpoint) will be harder than current ones.

Coincidentally, many of the heroic 4s can be two manned with companions...

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Vindigore
04.10.2012 , 09:50 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
I don't see why you would find any heroic 2's challenging. I did all mine with very little effort. In fact they felt roughly the difficulty of normal quests in previous MMOs (which involve actual use of class mechanics and strategy instead of blasting mindlessly through like every normal quest in this game).

Heroic 4's certainly can't be soloed by all classes, and only stealthers can do it, because they're hax.

I don't consider myself hardcore either, and you don't have to be be a competent player.
Any class that cant cc reliably (for 1 min) has problems with most of heroic 2 - wont even dare to propose heroic 4. Try doing with a Marauder: Prison Labor at Tattoine, or Republic's Last Grasp at Balmorra, Recruitment/Botched Interrogation @ Nar Shadaa and a lot a lot more examples...

Yes, classes like sorc/op/merc that can heal & cc , can solo more heroics, but this isnt the case. The whole thing started when I counter-argued Jjix's post at the start of page 20 that SWTOR is a Single Player Online Game. When I ll be able to solo heroics/FP's/Raids at my level with all classes, then it will be one, until then, accusing it of being a SPOG is silly the least.

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Jett-Rinn
04.10.2012 , 09:56 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Gungan View Post
They have. The 1.2 operation (and flashpoint) will be harder than current ones.

Coincidentally, many of the heroic 4s can be two manned with companions...
Well if it's too frustrating for the majority of players Bioware can expect forum fallout and lost subs.


If you could provide videos of all classes two manning heroics with companions that would give you a bit of credibility.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"