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Microtransactions Shop for SWTOR: confirmed or not?

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Microtransactions Shop for SWTOR: confirmed or not?

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Asturias
04.10.2012 , 08:59 AM | #21
I wouldnt mind if its only vanity pets, transfers, name changes but if it gets stupid like play to win or you can buy this set of armor, I won't play. Micro Transactions defeats the purpose of playing and the achievment a player makes in game. Keep any type of gear out of it for player characters and companions and I'll be cool with it.
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-Kraxis-
04.10.2012 , 09:00 AM | #22
"Pay to win" ruins games. That crap doesn't belong in a top tier MMO. 10-15 years ago MMO's did just fine with the subscription model... started at $10.. then $13.. now $15... then a few years ago, companies figured out the "Pay to win" model and gaming has gone downhill ever since.. actually, gaming started going downhill when consoles became popular (yes I'm a PC snob dealwithit.jpg) and the gaming market turned into the new Hollywood, but that's another rant..

DO NOT IMPLEMENT PAY TO WIN, BIOWARE.

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Darth_Moonshadow
04.10.2012 , 09:03 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by terminova View Post
For some people, they aren't moving one character, they are moving 3-6 characters and at $30 each that gets expensive.
This is what I like to call the "Child with too many Toys" problem.

You know how when you are going somewhere overnight, and your kid INSISTS on taking his entire toybox with him? So you tell the kid to pick ONE toy to take with him on the trip?

Same basic principle. You don't NEED all of those toons. Chances are, you will only play one for a good month or two. Space out your purchases. Take ONE toon with you and later, when you have the cash, you move another. And another. Until everyone is at their new home. This method keeps you from draining the ol' leather green holder and you don't end up having to move a bunch of toons in case the new server doesn't pan out. Move one, get your bearings and when you aren't playing, save up. Then you should have enough information and scratch to make an informed decision on whether or not to move.
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Shrikestalker
04.10.2012 , 09:08 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by WookieePower View Post

I don't know about every employer, but usually if a boss says something will happen, it is highly unlikely that some subordinate saying that it won't happen holds much water, given the fact that there are already a couple of microtransactions within the game already.
Pretty sure it was clear the OP was talking about a full-on cash shop, not microtransactions which all games have (remember Rift's 'spider mount' transaction for $10 despite their Trion 'bosses' saying 'No cash shop'?)

Furthermore, he was alluding to his/her own conspiracy theory that Bioware is intentionally holding back features in order to sell them in a cash shop that has no basis whatsoever.

There isn't any doubt that ANY mmo made today is going to be discussed in terms of a cash shop at some point as subs dwindle, even in the planning stages. That's only smart business planning so it is quite possible that a 'boss' wasn't on the same page as far as what info to let out in some interview that hasn't been linked for perusal and what was just for kicking around as ideas in meetings.

Actually there are many cases where a company has someone who has some initials after their names speaking about something and they didn't know exactly what they were talking about and it later had to be reclarified.

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Genixx
04.10.2012 , 09:11 AM | #25
if they do..they wont be getting anything from me.
$15/month is all i am spending here. i dont buy into those cash shops... no pun intended.

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iceperson
04.10.2012 , 09:16 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
The reason I ask is my suspicion that simple and highly desirable features are kept from the game because they are candidates for a cash shop - things like name changes, transfers and character customization.
Do most people equate paid services to a cash shop? For me a cash shop is something that allows you to buy digital items for your character, not things like name/faction/race changes, server transfers, etc...

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KrittaB
04.10.2012 , 09:21 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Asturias View Post
I wouldnt mind if its only vanity pets, transfers, name changes but if it gets stupid like play to win or you can buy this set of armor, I won't play. Micro Transactions defeats the purpose of playing and the achievment a player makes in game. Keep any type of gear out of it for player characters and companions and I'll be cool with it.
Obviously it wouldn't be a pay to win cash shop, come on people. This is like when people were complaining that the CE shop was going to have pay to win items. Use your brain.


At best we'll have vanity pets, mounts and paid name changes / server transfers. I'm one of those stupid people who would gladly give additional resources to a team that comes up with awesome vanity pets. It's a great system since it provides a lot of cash to the company, I get my awesome unique pets and it doesn't really take away from the resources currently being spent in other areas.

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Vagessel
04.10.2012 , 09:23 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Shrikestalker View Post
And this.. is what's wrong with most players in mmos today.

They sit around searching sites and forums for things that don't affect them at all now but instead start building little nuclear bunkers in 'preparation' for something that may or may not come with nothing to back it up, just 'suspicions'.

Conspiracy theories in mmos.. do we really need this after only four months?
Easy there on the Flaming, buddy. I made an honest question - no need to bash me, accuse me of whatever or rile up animosity.

I was only hoping to get some help in my search of a quote and out of a ton did get a few really helpful answers - let's keep it positive. Whether you hate me for my motivations has no bearing on the subject, k?

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terminova
04.10.2012 , 09:24 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Moonshadow View Post
This is what I like to call the "Child with too many Toys" problem.

You know how when you are going somewhere overnight, and your kid INSISTS on taking his entire toybox with him? So you tell the kid to pick ONE toy to take with him on the trip?
Except, they aren't going somewhere overnight, they are going somewhere permanently, and want all of their active characters available at the other place so they can start playing them with their new guild, with their real life friends etc.

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Same basic principle. You don't NEED all of those toons. Chances are, you will only play one for a good month or two.
Chances are you would be wrong. Some players actually do need all of their characters on the same server. It's like moving from New York to California and expecting them to keep up the residence in New York for an extended period of time while moving the furniture to the California residence one room at a time.

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Space out your purchases. Take ONE toon with you and later, when you have the cash, you move another. And another. Until everyone is at their new home. This method keeps you from draining the ol' leather green holder and you don't end up having to move a bunch of toons in case the new server doesn't pan out. Move one, get your bearings and when you aren't playing, save up. Then you should have enough information and scratch to make an informed decision on whether or not to move.
You completely missed my point, and the transfers still has the same effect on the wallet regardless. If it costs $90 overall to transfer three characters, it's still $90 even if you do it in three different moves. Most of the time a player will actually go find out about the other server before moving there or has a very specific reason for moving there.
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Kaesoron
04.10.2012 , 09:30 AM | #30
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things like name changes, transfers and character customization.
Your definition of a cash shop is a little skewed what you list there would a useful service top to its customers, that does not affect the balance of the game. The sooner they have those types of tools available the better in my opinion.

However if you are talking cash for valuable in game items then most definitely no, pay to win massively devalues a games content, I would hope that bioware is not even entertaining that idea.


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